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First Time Practicing Studio Lighting - any basic tips ?

 
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Apr 11, 2011 07:15 |  #1

Hey guys, I just converted a room in my place to a studio. Its about 10ft x 10ft. Pretty tight.

I only have 1 single strobe (430EXII) and a Qbox 24 & 16” Beauty Dish. (2nd 430EXII coming soon)

As it stands, I’ll just start playing around and see what happens. But before I do that, do you guys have any “rules of thumb” I should go by? Like distance of lights from subject? Or how to avoid shadows on the backdrop in such a tight space?

Any just real basic guidelines you could offer before I go in there and drive myself mad, lol?

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Apr 11, 2011 07:32 |  #2

Read read read....practice practice practice...

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Apr 11, 2011 08:30 |  #3

Kechar wrote in post #12199054 (external link)
Read read read....practice practice practice...

http://strobist.blogsp​ot.com …-balancing-flash-and.html (external link)

while I understand that lighting possibilites are almost endless, and i can research till my fingers fall off, i was hoping for just a few basic rules of thumb for this evening.




  
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Apr 11, 2011 09:06 |  #4

Go get a piece of white foam-core board to use as fill reflector.
With that tight of space be aware of you walls and ceiling adding light to your subject. Cover white walls with black sheet/cloth, or use the walls as bounce fill.

Are you trying to shoot full body shots? Might be tough with only 10'. Would have to go wide and i'm sure you know what that will do. Not bad, but be aware of the effect.
If you are only doing portraits/head shots just get your light in close, fill in the shadows with a reflector.

I just looked at your site...nice work! I don't see you having any problems.


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Apr 11, 2011 09:10 |  #5

Consider shooting corner to corner. Then think about how to you the two walls as reflectors and background elements.
One light, reflector is good place to start.


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Apr 11, 2011 09:19 as a reply to  @ dmward's post |  #6

Gotcha, thanks guys. I do have a 30 inch round white/silver reflector so I'll probably prop that up for fill and use my 24inch Soft Box first and get the hang of it...


How far away from the seamless paper background does the subject have to be to avoid shadows? Or are there certain angles the light souce should be pointing to avoid shadows on the background?




  
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Apr 11, 2011 09:39 |  #7

You don't have a lot of room to get the model away from the seamless. Especially not for full-body.
You can use something lying around as a GoBo to block the light from hitting the background and eliminating shadows.


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Apr 11, 2011 10:19 |  #8

Kechar wrote in post #12199584 (external link)
You don't have a lot of room to get the model away from the seamless. Especially not for full-body.
You can use something lying around as a GoBo to block the light from hitting the background and eliminating shadows.

not sure what you mean here ^ can you expound upon please?

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Apr 11, 2011 10:23 |  #9

Don't evaluate your exposures by viewing the screen on your camera.
So many people starting out with studio lighting underexpose their photos...which leads to major white balance issues.


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Apr 11, 2011 10:39 |  #10

m.shalaby wrote in post #12199829 (external link)
not sure what you mean here ^ can you expound upon please?

Thanks!

Yeah, thinking about it, I'm not sure a GoBo would be good for stopping shadows on the background as it would probably end up in the shot.

Angling your shots creatively can keep your shadows off the background, but you may still, inevitably, have spill. That's where you can use the GoBo to block it.

Like get a piece of cardboard, or the black side of a reflector, anything to block the light from your main and/or fill from hitting the background.


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Apr 11, 2011 10:44 |  #11

Kechar wrote in post #12199946 (external link)
Yeah, thinking about it, I'm not sure a GoBo would be good for stopping shadows on the background as it would probably end up in the shot.

Angling your shots creatively can keep your shadows off the background, but you may still, inevitably, have spill. That's where you can use the GoBo to block it.

Like get a piece of cardboard, or the black side of a reflector, anything to block the light from your main and/or fill from hitting the background.

gotcha, makes sense... so "gobo" as in just any black piece of cardboard like item... ok.




  
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Apr 11, 2011 11:19 |  #12

m.shalaby wrote in post #12199961 (external link)
gotcha, makes sense... so "gobo" as in just any black piece of cardboard like item... ok.

GoBo stands for Go Between.
I've seen people use everything under the sun so don't feel you MUST have something perfect and black. Try anything solid.


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Apr 11, 2011 12:12 |  #13

Kechar wrote in post #12200187 (external link)
GoBo stands for Go Between.
I've seen people use everything under the sun so don't feel you MUST have something perfect and black. Try anything solid.

but wouldn't that just get in the frame? or cast a shadow itself?




  
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Apr 11, 2011 13:56 |  #14

Get a light meter.


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Apr 11, 2011 14:06 |  #15

m.shalaby wrote in post #12200505 (external link)
but wouldn't that just get in the frame? or cast a shadow itself?

If you're stopping your only light from shining light onto the BG the entire BG will be shadow.

The gobo won't be in frame. If you pinch the light right near the modifier it should be far from it.

What you are doing by placing a gobo between your main and the BG is stopping the main from spilling light onto the BG. You should expect a dark BG pretty much. If you just let everything spill you will probably have all kinds of shadows on the BG. You may get some spill from your ceiling, walls, reflector, etc... But that spill may be really soft and subtle, and possibly unnoticeable. Spill from your main may be more intense and harsher.

It's going to be a trial process no doubt.


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