An odd behavior from CS3

Two images in *.jpg format (shot in large jpeg)

I open them both up in Photoshop at the same time and one opens like normal, and the other opens in Camera Raw. I have the "prefer Adobe Camera Raw for jpegs" turned off. Can anyone offer a reason why they'd open up differently like this? It isn't a huge deal, but I figure there has to be something I'm missing. Thanks.

After playing around with it more, it seems that though both images are in fact jpegs, the program doesn't agree. The one that opens into Camera Raw wants to be recognized by Photoshop as a psd image. If I click File>Save (or even Save As) it wants to save it as a psd. Seems quite bizzare to me.

They are both straight from one camera? It sounds like one is being opened as a 16 bit file (presumably because it opens in Camera Raw and ACR then opens it as a 16 bit file which you would need to convert to 8 bit before saving as a jpeg). It is strange behavior for sure if they are both coming from the same source shot in the same way.

Maybe try taking another couple shots and seeing if the behavior repeats itself or is just something odd about the one file?

I've been experimenting with various files (from different cameras, with different settings, etc...) and it seems that there is no rhyme or reason. I even unchecked both boxes for using ACR (raw and jpeg) and still, some jpegs open normal, some in ACR. Is it possible that Photoshop can be corrupted?

dan.k78 wrote in post #12219804
I've been experimenting with various files (from different cameras, with different settings, etc...) and it seems that there is no rhyme or reason. I even unchecked both boxes for using ACR (raw and jpeg) and still, some jpegs open normal, some in ACR. Is it possible that Photoshop can be corrupted?

Do you have your system set to show file extensions? How does Bridge identify the "pseudo" PSDs? Did you flatten all layers before saving as JPG?

ChasP505 wrote in post #12219916
Do you have your system set to show file extensions? How does Bridge identify the "pseudo" PSDs? Did you flatten all layers before saving as JPG?

After looking at the files in Bridge, it does identify that some of the files have been "edited in Adobe Camera Raw". These in fact are the ones that are opening in ACR no matter what boxes I have checked in the file handling menus. Even though the image was saved as a jpeg, it still wants to open it up in ACR. I've been using CS3 for quite a while and have never run into this issue before. It seems like the program feels that just because a file was manipulated in ACR at one point, it always needs to be edited with it. Kind of irritating...

Change your camera raw preferences regarding JPGs and go into the folder where the files are located and delete any associated xml files.

I've already changed my preferences for jpegs, but the funny thing is, that there are no xml files associated with these jpegs. Only the little notice in Bridge that they've been edited in ACR. I can clear that bit of info (which I'm in the process of doing for my jpegs) so hopefully that'll be at least a decent band-aid.

You can always batch copy them, saving with a different file name. This will also clear the ACR tag from them.

Good idea! Thanks.

It looks like you've found something important out -- once having edited them in ACR they are "tagged" with ACR metadata and will continue to open in ACR until either you do an ACR conversion/Save or else do like Elie says and change the name.

That's an interesting thing that, since I don't process jpegs that way I'd never taken any note of. It does kind of make sense that ACR/Bridge would "hold onto" a file in the database until the processing has actually been applied in a conversion, but interesting to see it happen with a jpeg. With Lightroom, yeah, jpeg processing is kept in the catalog/metadata until a jpeg is Exported, it's just funny to see Bridge act to keep the jpeg "in tow".

Just a guess, but this could be in infamous Bridge corrupted cache problem. Clear the Bridge cache and see if it continues. Better yet, find the Bridge cache in Windows Explorer and delete it manually.

When Bridge shows an icon for a file instead of a thumbnail, that's usually a sign of a corrupted cache. But it often gets bad "tags" on some files, treating tifs as jpegs, jpegs as txt, etc. CS3 Bridge is notorious for corrupting the cache. CS5 is a little better.

One thing that causes CS3 Bridge to corrupt the cache is having Bridge open and pointed at a folder while some other non-Adobe program adds files to that folder.

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I may have it solved. I had the file handling in Photoshop the way I wanted it in regards to jpegs and ACR, but I just discovered that within Bridge there is a different preferences menu for raw files. The box for jpegs was checked, so I unchecked it and now it seems as if all my jpegs open the same way. Keeping my fingers crossed...

tonylong wrote in post #12220517
It looks like you've found something important out -- once having edited them in ACR they are "tagged" with ACR metadata and will continue to open in ACR until either you do an ACR conversion/Save or else do like Elie says and change the name.

No.
If you set the ACR prefs in bridge like this, the jpg / tif wil open in PS instead of ACR, regardless of any ACR adjustments done before: You cannot open a jpg in ACR, even if you wanted to.

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Well OK then, color me mis-informed!