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Apr 16, 2011 14:18 |  #1

I was editing a photo earlier that showed a totally black area as 0,0,0. However, when I get the same photo saved in JPEG format and then open in PS, the default black is darker than the same black area. It shows as different values of black as high as 25. How do I keep the black, black when transferring from DPP to PS? Thanks! :D


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Apr 16, 2011 14:35 |  #2

You started from DPP with a raw file? Did you apply a contrast curve? Are you saving in the same color space?


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Apr 16, 2011 14:45 |  #3

Hey Chas. Thanks for the quick reply. I didnt touch contrast. Also, yes, I started with a RAW file. Both programs are set to sRGB. I only noticed it when I went to expand the crop using the black background color and a very obvious line around was clear. When I got back to DPP, the photo is still 0,0,0 but the same area of the jpeg is 15,15,15. Im going to try to export it again I guess. I just really like the edits I had done. Is there some way to save the history and then apply it to a new file?

Also, I wanted to say thanks to you in helping me choose a monitor calibration kit and the indirect help you gave me by all of your posts on the subject. So, THANKS!


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Apr 16, 2011 14:53 as a reply to  @ JakAHearts's post |  #4

I'm going to defer on this one though... There are more knowledgeable POTN members than me when it come to the technical workings of DPP and JPGs. I rarely use JPGs for any purpose.


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Apr 16, 2011 15:02 |  #5

Thanks anyway. I just did a quick levels adjustment to get the black point where I needed it. Not sure why its different from DPP to PS but its an easy fix. Thanks again!


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Apr 16, 2011 15:06 |  #6

Chances are that the jpeg compression upped the black level slightly. THrowing away some of the deep black that you prolly would not notice. Try using a Tiff file and see if they same thing happens


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Apr 16, 2011 15:18 |  #7

There is a setting somewhere that sets the minimum black levels and the maximum white levels for certain automated tasks such Auto Contrast etc. I remember seeing it but cannot find it.


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Apr 16, 2011 15:29 |  #8

JakAHearts wrote in post #12234807 (external link)
I just really like the edits I had done. Is there some way to save the history and then apply it to a new file?

There are a couple approaches.

The first uses a file to store the edits. With your "model" with the edits done selected, you can choose Edit/Save recipe in file...

It will open a browser. Just make sure you note where you save the recipe (as well as the name). Then, when you want to apply the recipe, just select the images you want to apply it to and choose Edit/Read and past recipe from file...

Again, make sure you go to the proper recipe -- not, as I just did, to one that had been previously saved by me:).

You can do all this in the Main window if you wish.

The other approach is that you can select and open the images you want to apply the edits to as well as the "model" image you have edited previously in the Edit window. Then, the click on the model image and choose Edit/Copy recipe to clipboard. Then, since all the "subject" images are already "selected", you can choose Edit/Paste recipe to all images. This is you will note a "one time" batch process, so if you want to have a long-term recipe to use repeatedly, saving a file with a distinct name is the best way to go.


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Apr 16, 2011 17:53 |  #9

Thanks Tony. Youre a life saver.

I re-exported the photo from DPP and it was fine in PS this time. Not sure what happened the first time. Thanks everyone for all the help!


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Apr 20, 2011 02:14 |  #10
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"It's like, how much more black could this be? and the answer is none. None ..... more black. "

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Apr 20, 2011 02:25 |  #11

so what you are saying is that dark grey is the new black?

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