Hoya Filter REAL or???

Ok so I went to the camera store looking for a polarizer but 1) this is my first filter so dont have complete understanding of the options other than brand, filter size, MRC, slim/not, and Cir vs Linear. 2) I'm in korea, dont speak any korean. In anycase I found a box with Hoya HD Cir-Pl printed on the front and on the back, HD coating 8 layer anti reflec... Water & Oil repell.... HD Frame....

but..on the filter itself, all it says is: Hoya HD Cir-PL 77mm made in Japan.

So my question is, how do I know if i got what I paid for and someone didnt just swap out a cheaper filter and put it in a nice box. Particuarlly I'm wondering if MRC is printed on the filter or not. The reason I ask is because I was first shown a B&W slim polarizer but MRC was not printed on the box let alone the filter. When I had my girlfriend ask the sales person, they said thats how it comes in the box. I decided on the hoya because it was 100,000 won roughly $90 vs the 180,000 won for the B&W.

To summarize, does B&W filters typcially not have anything but "slim polarizer" printed on them, and for Hoya, does the filter only say HD Cir-PL and nothing about the MRC?

Hoya won't say MRC; that's B+W's name for their multi-coating. Hoya filters will say, depending on the line, HD, S-HMC, or HMC for the various levels of multicoating. If it says all of those it's a fake, and a pretty inept one at that.

Mine only says HD

alwaySleepy wrote in post #12238452
Ok so I went to the camera store looking for a polarizer but 1) this is my first filter so dont have complete understanding of the options other than brand, filter size, MRC, slim/not, and Cir vs Linear. 2) I'm in korea, dont speak any korean. In anycase I found a box with Hoya HD Cir-Pl printed on the front and on the back, HD coating 8 layer anti reflec... Water & Oil repell.... HD Frame....

but..on the filter itself, all it says is: Hoya HD Cir-PL 77mm made in Japan.

So my question is, how do I know if i got what I paid for and someone didnt just swap out a cheaper filter and put it in a nice box. Particuarlly I'm wondering if MRC is printed on the filter or not. The reason I ask is because I was first shown a B&W slim polarizer but MRC was not printed on the box let alone the filter. When I had my girlfriend ask the sales person, they said thats how it comes in the box. I decided on the hoya because it was 100,000 won roughly $90 vs the 180,000 won for the B&W.

To summarize, does B&W filters typcially not have anything but "slim polarizer" printed on them, and for Hoya, does the filter only say HD Cir-PL and nothing about the MRC?

You should always research just what it is you're buying BEFORE spending any money. As Jon stated, 'MRC' is a B+W term for their level of multicoating. B+W polarizers, as well as polarizers from Hoya and others, are available in either a 'slim' or standard profile. All B+W polarizers won't have the term 'slim' on them, but the slim ones will. I wouldn't develop any angst over whether yours is a fake or not...

alwaySleepy wrote in post #12238452
In anycase I found a box with Hoya HD Cir-Pl printed on the front and on the back, HD coating 8 layer anti reflec... Water & Oil repell.... HD Frame....

but..on the filter itself, all it says is: Hoya HD Cir-PL 77mm made in Japan.
What else do you want it to say? Its given you the brand, the coating, what the filter is, and the size, and where it was made. Basically everything on the box. Or did you want them to also print out what the HD coating does, because then they'd need a very small font...

So my question is, how do I know if i got what I paid for and someone didnt just swap out a cheaper filter and put it in a nice box. Particuarlly I'm wondering if MRC is printed on the filter or not. The reason I ask is because I was first shown a B&W slim polarizer but MRC was not printed on the box let alone the filter. When I had my girlfriend ask the sales person, they said thats how it comes in the box. I decided on the hoya because it was 100,000 won roughly $90 vs the 180,000 won for the B&W.
If MRC wasn't printed on the box or on the filter, then its not a filter with MRC. MRC is the coating B&W put on some of their filters, they don't put it on ALL their filters, so why would they write it on a filter that doesn't actually have MRC?

To summarize, does B&W filters typcially not have anything but "slim polarizer" printed on them, and for Hoya, does the filter only say HD Cir-PL and nothing about the MRC?
I doubt it should ONLY have "slim polarizer" printed on it. It should at least also have the brand, and country it was made in. I don't know what else, because I only have 2 B&W UV filters, not polarizers.

It might help if you included a picture of the filter itself? A good way to tell fakes is by the actual text used on the filter.

It sounds like a Hoya filter. Did you have these worries when you bought it? or did they surface later??

My HOYA filter states "HOYA HMC 77mm PL-CIR Made in Japan".

alwaySleepy wrote in post #12238634
Mine only says HD

Well, it would. If it's HD it's not S-HMC or HMC. If it said 2 or more of those I'd worry.

Mine looks like this:

Alright I'm satisfied. And just to make clear, I'm not a complete idiot. I didn't spend 90bucks on a wimp with no research done, but pictures of the filter itself seemed easy enough to find, but pictures of a box not so much. It became more difficult when the salesperson mentioned different box's from different countries, ie Hong Kong's B&W box was completly different and had MRC printed on the box. The reason I ad so much doubt was because of the influx of prices, B&W filters he was selling was a good 20% high than online american prices which is pretty normal, while the Hoya was 20-25% less than online prices.. I found it odd but didnt want to let a good deal like that pass by when I the dots "seemed" to be in the right place.

Naturalist wrote in post #12238734
My HOYA filter states "HOYA HMC 77mm PL-CIR Made in Japan".

OP's original question was about Hoya HD - which is a different filter from Hoya HMC. The Hoya HD would have the HD written in a special way (it's a registered trademark) on the filter itself. HD filters come in UV protected special cases. The boxes are black. The lettering is golden.
Sounds like you have a genuine. The "too good to be true" deal might have some completely different business logic that you and I will not understand.
Incidentally, Hoya HD comes in one standard thickness. There is no other option like "slim" or anything else.

Thanks Roy, yeah who knows what he was thinking. He said he was selling at the price he got them for. My guess is that he wasen't selling them period like the monopod I got from him a while back so he's selling them just to get rid of stock. I might have to go back and see if he has any more filters at bargin prices ^^

I think Hoya HD 77 at $99 is a steal. Envy you.

98won so roughly 82 bucks^^

alwaySleepy wrote in post #12240647
ie Hong Kong's B&W box was completly different and had MRC printed on the box.

My B+W filters have identical boxes, but one was bought in NYC and one was bought in HK, but then they're UV filters, so again I'm not sure about CPL