60d & 430 EXII

I am new to wireless flash and I'm wondering if it's possible to have the on-camera flash fire the "preliminary" focus strobe, and then when I take the picture, JUST have the wireless flash fire?

430EXII and 60d

Pardon my newb-ness

Yes, just go into the flash control menu on your camera. There is an option for that. Keep in mind that the communications signal from your camera is visible light and the preflash and flash are so close together you may think your popup is contributing when it is actually not.

First, I assume you are talking about the evaluative flash, not the focus assist.

But in either case, since the camera is doing the evaluating in the ETTL mode the slave flash (your 430EX) has to fire an evaluative strobe to be measured. Given that I know you can tell the on-board flash not to fire in the final shot on the 7D I would assume the 60D will have the same ability.

If I understand correctly what you're asking, yes, you can. I have your exact same setup and I used this site to configure my flash. The area mid-way through where it starts talking about "The Flashes" is the steps I used. Just keep in mind that the sensor on your flash needs to be within vision & directed towards your camera for it to work off-camera (without any other gear).

http://www.thephoblogr​apher.com …ns-wireless-flash-system/

There's a video tutorial for it on Canon's site, somewhere. I don't remember exactly where, couldn't find it again when I looked.

I guess what I'm asking is how (in detail) can I get my wireless flash to be the only source of light in my picture. Since I don't have a diffuser yet, I'm bouncing it off a wall, but that shouldn't make a difference as long as that red light that blinks is pointed towards my camera. Does it have to be towards a specific point on the camera?

Just go into the camera's flash control menu and set it so the flash doesnt fire. Keep in mind that it will still appear to fire the preflash, but that will almost at the same time the flash does so to the naked eye it appears that the flash on the camera is contributing to the exposure when its not.

gonzogolf wrote in post #12249166
Just go into the camera's flash control menu and set it so the flash doesnt fire. Keep in mind that it will still appear to fire the preflash, but that will almost at the same time the flash does so to the naked eye it appears that the flash on the camera is contributing to the exposure when its not.

I'm definitely doing something wrong, because I tried this, and now nothing fires, including the 430exII

You've turned off the entire flash. gonzogolf over corrected.....

http://canonexspeedlit​eflash.shopgigg.com …eedlite-transmitter-1314/

Titus213 wrote in post #12250396
You've turned off the entire flash. gonzogolf over corrected.....

http://canonexspeedlit​eflash.shopgigg.com …eedlite-transmitter-1314/

Thank you sir!

I meant the onboard flash....

It's important to note that the onboard flash WILL STILL FIRE even if you've got it turned off in the menu. It fires a low-power "signal" flash that occurs immediately before the shutter opens, and before the Speedlite fires. if you've got it turned off in the menu, the pop-up flash doesn't show up in your photo, though you will see it fire with your eyes. That's how it controls the Speedlite. The 60D doesn't have a separate IR transmitter for wireless control; it's integrated into the pop-up flash bulb using technology so advanced it is indistinguishable from magic.

You can turn on both the pop-up and the Speedlite, and control the power of each one individually, to use the pop-up as a very small fill flash (dial it way down, 1/16 or even 1/128, depending on conditions). In this case, the pop-up fires twice: once to signal the Speedlite, and again in sync with the Speedlite. But the two flashes are in such rapid succession, you likely won't notice two distinct flashes.

nathancarter wrote in post #12253764
It's important to note that the onboard flash WILL STILL FIRE even if you've got it turned off in the menu. It fires a low-power "signal" flash that occurs immediately before the shutter opens, and before the Speedlite fires. if you've got it turned off in the menu, the pop-up flash doesn't show up in your photo, though you will see it fire with your eyes. That's how it controls the Speedlite. The 60D doesn't have a separate IR transmitter for wireless control; it's integrated into the pop-up flash bulb using technology so advanced it is indistinguishable from magic.

Yea, that's what I've been noticing, I guess that's why I was so confused. Thanks for the clarification guys (and maybe gals)

Have you tried off camera flash? How well 60D control the 430EXii?

njekin wrote in post #12254791
Have you tried off camera flash? How well 60D control the 430EXii?

Off camera flash is what I'm talking about

As far as my minimal experience so far, the 60d controls the 430exII great, I am just having a hell of a time figuring it out