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Sigma 85 f/1.4 and 135 f/2 L, which blurs the background more for portrait?

 
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Apr 24, 2011 07:48 |  #1

suppose both wide open, the subject has the same FOV (or the same size in the picture without crop), which one has more blur in the background?


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Apr 24, 2011 07:51 |  #2

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Apr 24, 2011 07:51 |  #3

I THINK that the 135mm should have more blur. I've seen somewhere that you can find it out by comparing aperture sizes, but i could be totally wrong...


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Apr 24, 2011 07:52 |  #4

I don't have any numbers for you.. But from experience, they're very close, almost identical.


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Apr 24, 2011 07:54 |  #5

The 85mm @ f/1.4 would yield slightly more blur.

Example:
135mm lens @ f/2 standing 20 feet from the subject will render a point 10 feet beyond the subject as a blur disk with a diameter of 0.50mm on the sensor.

85mm lens @ f/1.4 standing 12.6 feet from the subject will render a point 10 feet beyond the subject as a blur disk with a diameter of 0.59mm on the sensor.

This shows the scenario requested, with the size of the blur disk / the CoC as the parameter of interest. Quite frankly, I'd use whichever focal length is best for working distance as this is so close as to be meaningless.


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Apr 24, 2011 09:31 |  #6

tomme wrote in post #12282450 (external link)
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Thanks!

I understand that f/1.4 will have less DOF than f/2, but DOF isn't the same thing as the amount of blur


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Apr 24, 2011 09:32 |  #7

actually i just find this , not siggy 85 vs 135 f/2, but
nikon 85mm f/1.4 vs nikon 135mm f/2 DC, good reference nontheless

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Apr 24, 2011 09:32 |  #8

JeffreyG wrote in post #12282460 (external link)
The 85mm @ f/1.4 would yield slightly more blur.

Example:
135mm lens @ f/2 standing 20 feet from the subject will render a point 10 feet beyond the subject as a blur disk with a diameter of 0.50mm on the sensor.

85mm lens @ f/1.4 standing 12.6 feet from the subject will render a point 10 feet beyond the subject as a blur disk with a diameter of 0.59mm on the sensor.

This shows the scenario requested, with the size of the blur disk / the CoC as the parameter of interest. Quite frankly, I'd use whichever focal length is best for working distance as this is so close as to be meaningless.

Thanks a lot for the info! :-)


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Apr 24, 2011 09:34 |  #9

I think I've decided to get the Siggy 85mm f1/4 mainly because
1) It can be used indoor better because of the focal length
2) it works for both my 60D and 5D, while 135 f/2 will be a bit too long on 60D
3) it's better for low light

Thanks to everyone who replied :-)


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Apr 24, 2011 12:32 |  #10

As far as the Bokeh is concerned I used to shoot both he 85 1.2 and 135 2 when photographing people. I do shoot wide open a lot but tend to like the 85 1.2 on my 1/3 crop MKIII set at 1.6 which is my all around favorite spot for bokeh bit depending on distance to the background I may stop down to 2.5 doing headshots. The 135 2 also blew me away with it's extreme bokeh on the same camera and occasionally it felt like too much and I's stop it down a half stop I don't know about the 85 1.4 you are talkin about, I've never even seen someone using a sigma but read that quit a few here on POTN use them.


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Apr 24, 2011 13:52 |  #11

tomme wrote in post #12282450 (external link)
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Unfortunately, dof calculator won't give any information about blur and bokeh
Somebody tried to put two samples at same aperture between sigma and canon ..
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1031462
as we can see sigma is rather far from canon for blur softness out of focus ...


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