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Genius or crazed - advice sought!

 
Dana
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Apr 29, 2003 02:08 |  #1

I'm not like most G3 users, I suspect, in terms of my relationship with the flip-out LCD. I actually don't use it unless I have a strong need to. I prefer to shoot as many of my photos as I can using the optical viewfinder (OVF). If I need exposure/shutter info, the small LCD panel on the top of the camera provides that info. I do use the large LCD for other settings/adjustments that can't be done on the small LCD - but the small LCD can do a lot - what a wonder that little bugger is!

Anyway, w/the 1.75x Canon tele and lensmate 58mm adapter, you really can't see much of the image area via the OVF. So I am forced to use the LCD for most of my zoom shots. I just don't like that. I've used digicams w/LCDs for about four years so it's not a matter of me not getting used to them, I just prefer the OVF. :-)

Anyway, I practiced w/the G3 and found that I could see enough of the upper right side of the shot to do a pretty good job of framing my shots via the OVF w/the zoom on. Problem was, these are sports shots, and I can't see quite enough of the action to time and frame the shot as well as I want to.

Moment of epiphany:

I was playing w/the camera w/the zoom on tonight at home, and while idly shooting various things across the living room from myself (am I a fun guy or what!?) I didn't bother to use the OVF on one shot - I looked over the top of the camera (along the axis of the center of the flash hot shoe and the center of the zoom lens. Surprise - the object I was taking a picture of was framed pretty well!! I realized after a few more shots sighting over the top of the camera that I could actually shoot this way. The hot shoe is centered on the lens, and makes a pretty good "sight."

An added benefit of shooting this way would that I would have a full field of view as I tracked the action on-field.

So - I'm thinking that all I need to do is make a small square "window" (out of wire, or plastic, or maybe even thin strips of balsa wood) to serve as my viewfinder, attach it to a mount that will fit into the hotshow and I'll have a viewfinder that I can use w/the zoom. I'd have to play w/the size and positioning to give me reasonably consistent framing, and would use it when shooting full or near-full zoom shots. Of course it won't show the actual zoom, but the OVF doesn't really either, and I'm pretty accomplished at framing my zoom shots w/out seeing the actual zoom.

So before I start, a couple of questions:

1. Does something like this already exist that I can purchase? Unlikely, but wanted to ask.

2. Any thoughts about materials/design if I make it myself?

3. Does anything exist that I could use as a base to make this from (particularly wondering if there is a something out there that would provide the "shoe" portion that will fit in the G3 hot-shoe mount.

Time to rest now...and let my genius brain cells recharge. :-)

Thanks,

Dana




  
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pappy
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Apr 29, 2003 06:22 |  #2

dana wrote:

1. Does something like this already exist that I can purchase? Unlikely, but wanted to ask.

I know that there was and probably still is a rangefinder viewer to be attached to the hot shoe made by Leica for use with their M series cameras and extreme wide angle lenses - theirs, of course, would be incredibly expensive and wouldn't serve your purpose.

Interesting quest - I agree about using the view finder it's certainly my preference as well.

Gonna have to do some Google searching at work today if I have the chance ;)

Regards,
Peter




  
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henkbos
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Apr 29, 2003 06:53 |  #3

Actually got one of those with an old camera. Suggest you browse some antique stores or auctions.




  
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Dana
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Apr 29, 2003 10:10 |  #4

Aha!

know that there was and probably still is a rangefinder viewer to be attached to the hot shoe made by Leica for use with their M series cameras and extreme wide angle lenses - theirs, of course, would be incredibly expensive and wouldn't serve your purpose.

http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/​21-24-38vf.shtml (external link)

I think this is what you're talking about - no pics on this page, but $275! Any luck searching?

Dana

p.S. Found this hotshoe spirit level, so there must be something like what I want out there... :-)

http://www.saphoto.co.​za/Pages/xpan.html (external link)




  
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pappy
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Apr 29, 2003 17:24 |  #5

dana wrote:

I think this is what you're talking about - no pics on this page, but $275! Any luck searching?

Dana

p.S. Found this hotshoe spirit level, so there must be something like what I want out there... :-)

http://www.saphoto.co.​za/Pages/xpan.html (external link)

No, Dana, sorry. Busy at work and I'm home briefly then out with my wife to a scotch tasting and dinner, yippee!!! ;)

I'll also poke around our local stores as Henk suggested.

Regards,
Peter




  
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Dana
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Apr 29, 2003 17:30 |  #6

Thanks, Peter. Glad to know there's another OVF fan out there. I'm going to stop by my local WOlf Camera on the way home and see if they have something like what I'm looking for or know where to find it.

ONe thing I just thought of - some of the cheap "one use" cameras used to have little plastic folding viewfinders on them...I may see if anything like that is still available and see if I can use it as a part of my solution.

Dana




  
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ThomasL
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Apr 29, 2003 18:54 |  #7

Hi Dana,

Being used to SLR's, I tried to use the viewfinder in the beginning as well. My problem has been the focussing... since you don't have the feedback of the green focussing frame, how do you manage to get sharp images? Do you just press the shutter slowly, waiting for the beep?




  
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