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Apr 26, 2011 11:23 |  #16

MDJAK wrote in post #12294592 (external link)
Really? That seems so unfair. I mean, then you should be able to retract a bid at any time, for any reason, which you can't do.

You can retract a bid, eBay just hides it for some reason.


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Apr 26, 2011 11:26 |  #17

MDJAK wrote in post #12294592 (external link)
Really? That seems so unfair. I mean, then you should be able to retract a bid at any time, for any reason, which you can't do.

info on retracting bid.

http://pages.ebay.com/​help/buy/bid-retract.html (external link)


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Apr 27, 2011 06:09 |  #18

buyers can retract bids at any point up to the last 12 hours of the auction.

also if a potential buyer doesn't want to buy the item, they can just not pay and file a dispute. the seller has no recourse since you cannot leave negative feedback for the buyer.

part of the reason i hate ebay and paypal.

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Really? That seems so unfair. I mean, then you should be able to retract a bid at any time, for any reason, which you can't do.


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Apr 27, 2011 09:21 |  #19

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also if a potential buyer doesn't want to buy the item, they can just not pay and file a dispute. the seller has no recourse since you cannot leave negative feedback for the buyer.

part of the reason i hate ebay and paypal.

Maybe it's because you don't know how to use them. A dispute from a non-paying buyer would be dismissed. The seller can file a non-payment dispute, which won't be dismissed unless the buyer pays.




  
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Apr 27, 2011 09:49 |  #20

bigcountry wrote in post #12301370 (external link)
the seller has no recourse since you cannot leave negative feedback for the buyer.

both buyers and sellers can leave negative feedback.


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Apr 27, 2011 10:07 |  #21

shagaholik wrote in post #12302317 (external link)
both buyers and sellers can leave negative feedback.

Apparently you're not an eBay seller. eBay eliminated negative feedback for buyers in May, 2008 (that's 3 years ago; how did you miss it?). Also, sellers are not allowed to leave positive feedback with a negative comment; eBay will remove the comment upon request from the buyer, leaving the positive score, and will note a policy violation on the seller's account.




  
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Apr 27, 2011 10:12 |  #22

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Apparently you're not an eBay seller. eBay eliminated negative feedback for buyers in May, 2008 (that's 3 years ago; how did you miss it?). Also, sellers are not allowed to leave positive feedback with a negative comment; eBay will remove the comment upon request from the buyer, leaving the positive score, and will note a policy violation on the seller's account.

The seller is now at the mercy of the buyer with eBay and PayPal support. I no longer sell anything of value on eBay, especially something like photography equipment.


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Apr 27, 2011 11:58 |  #23

i stand corrected, as i haven't sold anything in years, also i don't leave feedback until i received from buyer.


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Apr 27, 2011 12:32 |  #24

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i stand corrected, as i haven't sold anything in years, also i don't leave feedback until i received from buyer.

That's no more effective. Either you can leave a truly positive feedback or do nothing and mess with Paypal and e-bay.


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Apr 27, 2011 19:19 |  #25

i think you're incorrect. non paying buyers get something like a strike against them, i think they can have 3 or 4 per month, but don't take that as gospel as i really dont do ebay or paypal anymore.
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Maybe it's because you don't know how to use them. A dispute from a non-paying buyer would be dismissed. The seller can file a non-payment dispute, which won't be dismissed unless the buyer pays.


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Apr 27, 2011 20:15 |  #26

Back to the original issue, why do you think it is unfair to be able to pull your listing down from Ebay? Once you list with a business, there is no law that says you cannot sell the item anywhere else, or just change your mind and take it down. I don't understand the concern at all?

I have the right to list anything I want for whatever price I want using whatever online means I want, and I have the right to pull it down just as fast.

When you bid, you have agreed that it is a binding agreement between you and the seller, however they still allow you to retract your bid. I have retracted bids several times, due to the listing changing or the seller not replying, etc.


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Apr 28, 2011 08:58 |  #27

bigcountry wrote in post #12305806 (external link)
i think you're incorrect. non paying buyers get something like a strike against them, i think they can have 3 or 4 per month, but don't take that as gospel as i really dont do ebay or paypal anymore.
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Incorrect about what? A dispute filed by a non-payer won't stand, unless they have proof that the seller did something to void the contract. And a dispute filed against a non-payer will stand. And eBay doesn't say how many non-payment strikes a buyer can have, but it sure isn't 3 or 4 per month.

Many sellers have their preferences set to block bidders who have one or more non-payment strikes, so even if eBay doesn't boot them off right away, there are a lot of things they won't be able to bid on. I use every preference eBay offers me to avoid the deadbeats.




  
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Apr 28, 2011 09:04 |  #28

TeamSpeed wrote in post #12306146 (external link)
Back to the original issue, why do you think it is unfair to be able to pull your listing down from Ebay? Once you list with a business, there is no law that says you cannot sell the item anywhere else, or just change your mind and take it down. I don't understand the concern at all?

Pulling a listing because the item was lost, damaged, or incorrectly described is perfectly valid. Pulling a listing on the last day because you're unhappy with the price is considered reserve fee avoidance, and doing it frequently can result in loss of selling privileges.

Retracting a bid is also perfectly valid if the listing is changed. However, retracting because the seller doesn't respond is not. Sellers aren't required to respond, and questions should be asked before placing a bid. If he doesn't get back to you, don't bid.




  
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Apr 28, 2011 09:12 |  #29

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Pulling a listing because the item was lost, damaged, or incorrectly described is perfectly valid. Pulling a listing on the last day because you're unhappy with the price is considered reserve fee avoidance, and doing it frequently can result in loss of selling privileges.

Retracting a bid is also perfectly valid if the listing is changed. However, retracting because the seller doesn't respond is not. Sellers aren't required to respond, and questions should be asked before placing a bid. If he doesn't get back to you, don't bid.

And both are issues that lie between Ebay and the seller, and has nothing to do with the expectations laid out in this post by potential buyers. Here it seems that potential buyers seem to believe that just because something has been listed on ebay, it cannot be pulled off preventing them from bidding.


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