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Apr 26, 2011 16:16 |  #1

Hi everyone,

I just wonder the processing of the photos in PS, especially macro. I have tried to process however, everytime I failed:mad: How can I do it? I mean, I see a lot of pics which are one shot. I know that F is about 11 or 16. Or FS pics are seen. How can they be so sharp? I asked it to Thomas Shahan and he said that they are almost same as the originals.Just adjusting curves etc. But what curves? :lol:

Anyone to help me?:(


I hope you can understand me and return :)


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Apr 26, 2011 16:38 |  #2

Maybe you can post a link to a photo you wonder about.

Macro shooting is more about the capture than it is about the post-processing with one exception. The exception is the process of focus stacking, in which the photog takes several shots by manually shifting the focus from one part of the subject to another and using software to blend the photos together to produce an even amount of sharpness on the subject.

Otherwise, it is just the skill and technique of the photographer that will determine how sharp the focus on the subject is, together with the fact that shooting at macro distances means that the area of acceptable sharpness will be quite narrow at any rate, so often the use of a tripod along with very narrow apertures can come in handy.

If you want to get an idea of how the depth of field can vary, and how even with a tripod you are dealing with a very small range, check out this little test setup I did:

http://www.pbase.com …g/feb_26_09_gui​tar_macros (external link)

Click on each photo and below the open photo you can see the exif with the aperture I used.


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Apr 26, 2011 17:08 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #3

Thanks for reply :)

I'm talking about this kind of photos:

http://farm2.static.fl​ickr.com …08328833_90711d​1e51_z.jpg (external link)

And he has taken this photos while carrying the camera on his hands. How can it be so sharp? When I was tried to take photo with my 100mm USM macro lens and some extension tube it is so for from the sharpness :lol:

These are my examples ( too bad)

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What can I do for the sharpness?:mad:

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Apr 26, 2011 17:22 |  #4

First, a heads up: it is against forum rules to post a shot that is not yours -- as I said above, post a link to the first photo -- posting your own photos is, of course, good!


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Apr 26, 2011 17:29 |  #5

I can't get any shooting info/exif from either his shot or yours, so it's hard to compare. What apertures were you using? And, especially with extension tubes, shooting handheld will be challenging!

A lot of macro shooters use a flash to assist when shooting hand-held. It looks like he did. The flash helps to "freeze" motion in both the subject and any camera movement.


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Apr 26, 2011 18:31 |  #6

I am sorry for the rule and edited. :)

He and I use extensions tube so that there is no lens attached to the body directly. Thus, exif is gone.Both of us use flash and I have taken these with 2 flashes fired at the same time and the body was on the tripod. Nevertheless, the IQ is obviously too bad. He is shooting handheld and fired just one flash. What is wrong? :( My stuff is better (Mark II +100mm USM Macro+ Ext. Tube + YN560 Flash with diff.)

Generally, F11 was used. I am sure that he is using the same or around F11. But there is a point I always miss and never catch! I have to learn! :D


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Apr 26, 2011 18:44 |  #7

I'm not sure what tubes you are using but my shots with tubes do have the exif, just not the tubes factored into the focal length.

Here's an example of shooting with stacked tubes:

IMAGE: http://www.pbase.com/tonylong/image/109465977/original.jpg

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Apr 26, 2011 18:46 |  #8

Exif info is there, just not "complete"...


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Apr 26, 2011 18:52 |  #9

Anyway, back to your question, I really can't tell you exactly how to get the most sharpness except to keep at it. A lot of the shots you see are done by photogs who have put in a whole lot of practice, as in years, to hone their skills.

Now, sure, a bit of post-processing is done with all digital photos -- if you are shooting Raw, you want to apply some sharpening in your Raw software, if you are shooting jpeg, try upping the sharpness setting in your camera Picture Style and see if that helps. Have you tried either of these approaches?

I can emphasize -- I enjoy macro shooting but don't do enough of it to get those great results either. Macro shooters are a dedicated bunch!


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Apr 26, 2011 18:59 |  #10

:D

I am shooting RAW, always tried the sharpness through both ways. no way :(

Now, I understand that the only way is prtactice! :)

Thanks a lot! :)


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Apr 26, 2011 19:15 |  #11

evirgen2008 wrote in post #12298581 (external link)
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I am shooting RAW, always tried the sharpness through both ways. no way :(

Now, I understand that the only way is prtactice! :)

Thanks a lot! :)

Heh! Yeah, I'd say so! That and continue to ask the folks that get the great results for tips!


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Apr 26, 2011 20:54 |  #12

A lot of macro shots are stacked. This is 5 images stacked in photoshop.

IMAGE: http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n147/chrisa62401/Drop22b.jpg



  
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Apr 27, 2011 06:42 |  #13

chrisa wrote in post #12299282 (external link)
A lot of macro shots are stacked. This is 5 images stacked in photoshop.

Would be interesting to see one of the SOOC shots for comparison ;)


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Apr 27, 2011 09:17 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #14

Different image but same method.

IMAGE: http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n147/chrisa62401/IMG_9931.jpg

IMAGE: http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n147/chrisa62401/IMG_9930.jpg


IMAGE: http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n147/chrisa62401/IMG_9929.jpg


Combined in photoshop
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Apr 27, 2011 09:52 |  #15

Good Shoots! :)


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