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Diffuser for 430ex2

 
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May 01, 2011 05:07 |  #1

Hi, I recently sold my 580's in favour of smaller 430's. My Lightsphere diffuser doesn't fit so well on them - wasn't great on the 580's either to be honest but am looking to see what stofen type diffusers anyone is using on the smaller guns and if they are any good. Any comments appreciated. Ta, Craig




  
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May 01, 2011 07:36 |  #2

Best to save your money and use correctly angled bounce flash

Tupperware diffusers that don't substantially increase the size of the flash head are a waste of money


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May 01, 2011 08:31 |  #3

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May 01, 2011 09:29 |  #4

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May 01, 2011 09:58 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #5

Joe Demb Flash Diffuser Pro

I use and unconditionally recommend the Joe Demb Flash Diffuser Pro and bounce flash. www.dembflashproducts.​com (external link)

The great advantage of the Demb Diffuser is that the FlipIt reflector portion of that unit is adjustable. You can choose an angle which will provide the best lighting.

The adjustable FlipIt allows you to "bounce" the flash even when shooting outdoors or in a place where the ceiling is too high or too dark to bounce off.

This is a shot in an outdoor market stall in China. There was no ceiling overhead, only the sky...

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You can do some very nice one-light portraiture by bouncing the flash on an off camera bracket with the Demb Flash Diffuser Pro...

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May 01, 2011 10:54 |  #6

RPCrowe wrote in post #12326697 (external link)
This is a shot in an outdoor market stall in China. There was no ceiling overhead, only the sky...


One of the best strategies is to bounce off of your surroundings. There may not have been a ceiling but those t-shirts would have been a perfect surface to bounce off

Take for example, this setting I found myself in last night:

We were in the inside of a hotel. Even at ISO 3200, f/1.2, Manual Flash at 1/1 power barely registered when I tried to bounce off the inside of the (40+ story) hotel.

IMAGE: http://dawei.zenfolio.com/img/v18/p362167743-4.jpg?sn=

This second photo shows the reverse angle. Use the guy I highlighted as the reference point. I ended up bouncing off the gold bar on the gazebo thingy shown below:
IMAGE: http://dawei.zenfolio.com/img/v25/p410497809-3.jpg?sn=

Which got me photos like this:

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ISO 1600 + 0.5 EV in Canon DPP (approx ISO 2250), f/1.4, 1/30 Shutter Speed, ETTL +2/3EC Bounce Flash

The subjects have some specular highlights on their heads and faces from ambient lighting, but nevertheless the lighting on the most part is soft and natural looking especially for the small bouncing service used. A diffuser will just give crappy direct flash as the bounce component would have failed.

Another example where I found a patch of wall next to a window:
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May 01, 2011 11:02 |  #7

I've tried to leave a comment on that blog but can't for some reason

His result for bare bounce is invalid because he's just pointed it straight up to the ceiling leaving the dreaded raccoon eyes making it look crap compared to his home made diffuser.

It's kind of like driving a Lamborghini with the handbrake still on in first gear, and then showing how it is inferior to a Toyota going flat out> user error.


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