I am screwed

I have been cropping on CS5 in raw edit and the actual cs5 because I thought they were the same and now when uploading to Mpix some shots are slightly cut off on the sides. What do I do!!!!!!! I process most of my images in cs5 so if I go back raw edit I will have to do %50 of everything over.

Nickc84 wrote in post #12346400
I have been cropping on CS5 in raw edit and the actual cs5 because I thought they were the same and now when uploading to Mpix some shots are slightly cut off on the sides. What do I do!!!!!!! I process most of my images in cs5 so if I go back raw edit I will have to do %50 of everything over.

First I would want to know why Mpix is cropping your photos again.

For those that you have already done there isn't much you can do other than start over again.

Other than that, if you're using multiple layers don't merge or flatten them. Go to File / "Save" and save your work as a PSD file. Then you can re-open the file and resume where you left off.

If you use ACR and don't need to take it into CS5 you can select Done and it will update your RAW file with a sidecar. Then you can export the file to jpeg and still have your raw with the changes you did in ACR. If you don't want to keep those changes then just select Camera Raw Defaults.

What is your crop? That is, are you cropping to specific dimensions and print resolution, or are your crops non-constrained and freeform?

Perhaps MPIX is cropping to the specified output aspect ratio, which may be different than your crop. Also, labs may crop a very small portion of the correctly sized image in the printing process.

From MPIX:

link: http://www.mpix.com …/Help.aspx?id=3​#anchor_17

Details?

Kirk

the 2/3 crop from raw editor fits perfect on mpix but the 2/3 crop from the cs5 editor cuts some if it out? How is that possible if its the same crop?

Nickc84 wrote in post #12347813
the 2/3 crop from raw editor fits perfect on mpix but the 2/3 crop from the cs5 editor cuts some if it out? How is that possible if its the same crop?

Your original Raw image is very large. Even if you crop an image you usually still have to resize for certain applications or web sites..

How are you cropping with CS5?
Are you just freely cropping, or cropping to a specific aspect ratio either Inches, or pixels?
Once you crop are you resizing the image again to reduce the size even more?

Set your width and height aspect ratio(size) in either pixels or inches. Then you can crop what you want from the original picture and not worry about resizing again.

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tkerr wrote in post #12348231
Your original Raw image is very large. Even if you crop an image you usually still have to resize for certain applications or web sites..

How are you cropping with CS5?
Are you just freely cropping, or cropping to a specific aspect ratio either Inches, or pixels?
Once you crop are you resizing the image again to reduce the size even more?

Set your width and height aspect ratio(size) in either pixels or inches. Then you can crop what you want from the original picture and not worry about resizing again.

I am cropping in cs5 with a two thirds ratio but I was mixing it up with the two thirds ratio in raw editor as well because I thought it was the same. Now all the pics I cropped on Cs5 itself are not a prefect fit for prints ...only the ones I cropped in raw editor fit. After I crop I change the DPI to 300 and resample.

Nickc84 wrote in post #12348384
I am cropping in cs5 with a two thirds ratio but I was mixing it up with the two thirds ratio in raw editor as well because I thought it was the same. Now all the pics I cropped on Cs5 itself are not a prefect fit for prints ...only the ones I cropped in raw editor fit. After I crop I change the DPI to 300 and resample.

How are you determining 2/3 ratio? Do you mean 2 to 3 using ACR? That's not two thirds ratio. That is a ratio of 2 by 3.

Instead of changing the resolution, and then resampling after you crop, maybe you should do that first.

Or you can predetermine the aspect ratio as well as the resolution that you crop.

For example if I want to crop my picture for a 4" x 6" 300 ppi print, I can preset it, and then however much I crop out of the original image it will maintain those dimensions which works for a standard 4x6 inch print.

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I think this is a PEBKAC class problem, and I think you need to explain yourself and your problem more carefully, maybe post screenshots of you doing the crops.

The crop tool works properly in both ACR and Photoshop. In ACR you're just changing your view of the image, in Photoshop you're throwing away pixels.

Yeah Nick, post a screen shot, at least with the setup for the crop tool tkerr shows in post #7/

http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/User_error

Kirk

sorry, not very funny. I figured out if I just crop in raw editor its fine.

I put the definition there because of Tim's post - I had no idea what PEBKAC meant.

So was the problem with Photoshop/ACR?

Kirk

Nickc84 wrote in post #12351726
sorry, not very funny. I figured out if I just crop in raw editor its fine.

By "Raw Editor" can we assume you are referring to (ACR)Adobe Camera Raw? Or are you using something else?

Looking back to the original post I've come to think we are not reading from the same book or there is some sort of language barrier..

Nickc84 wrote in post #12346400
I have been cropping on CS5 in raw edit and the actual cs5 because I thought they were the same .

How much experience and knowledge of Photoshop do you have?
What kind of work flow are you using? E.g. From Camera to computer to Adobe Bridge to Camera Raw to CS5 and then Save.

I can only Assume by that comment you are opening your Raw files into ACR and then into CS5. And you thought they were the same but no you think they are not. Is that correct?

ACR is a plugin that works with CS5 as Well as Adobe Bridge. It is an image editor that is also used to open Raw files into CS5. Any changes you make to your images in ACR will follow into CS5.

Any Changes you made to your RAW files are not actually applied to the Raw file itself, but are instead embedded into a sidecar file. If you just close a RAW file when done in ACR the changes are lost. If instead you choose to Open Image it will save the sidecar and then open the image file into CS5 with those changes.
If on the other hand you just select Done, you're edits and correction are just embedded into the Sidecar file that will be saved as a separate file along side the original Raw image file. Anytime you re-open that Raw file into ACR it will read that sidecar file and apply those changes. None of the changes are permanent unless you export/save it as a different file type, i.e. tiff, jpeg, psd, etc.
Now, If you open that Raw image again to make changes again, any changes made will be written to a new sidecar file that will overwrite the previous.

So if you did it right, the sidecar file should still be there for each raw image file. When you open them into ACR again you shouldn't have to do everything over again.
Look in the directory/folder where you are storing your Raw image files. If you see a .xmp file next to each of the Raw files you opened into ACR and made any changes too, you changes are safe.

Nickc84 wrote in post #12351726
sorry, not very funny. I figured out if I just crop in raw editor its fine.

But we still don't understand what your problem in the Photoshop editor is. If you do like we ask and post a screen shot of your crop settings we may be able to easily spot the problem.