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Feb 19, 2013 14:55 |  #841

It's fitting that my favorite planes can be found on the first and almost last pages of this thread. The F4 has always been my favorite plane ever since I saw the Phantoms from El Toro flying every day during my lunch brakes in high school. Great shot Jay!bw!

And from the first page, Trent took this outstanding OV-10 shot. My total flight time experience was 12 hours in a Cessna 152 from about 20 years ago, but if I could only fly one plane in the world, the OV-10 would be it. Just a cool looking airplane and I love the short take-off and landing distances, and the view from that thing must be unreal...like having your butt strapped to a rocket.:lol: :D




  
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Feb 23, 2013 20:22 |  #842

From NAF El Centro 2-21-13

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Feb 23, 2013 20:32 |  #843

yipDog Studios wrote in post #15645079 (external link)
From NAF El Centro 2-21-13

Nice panning job on the T-35 Rob. Not an easy capture when you are trying to get them coming at you from a 3/4 front angle - well done.


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Feb 23, 2013 20:37 |  #844

Salmo22 wrote in post #15645105 (external link)
Nice panning job on the T-35 Rob. Not an easy capture when you are trying to get them coming at you from a 3/4 front angle - well done.

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Feb 25, 2013 18:29 as a reply to  @ yipDog Studios's post |  #845

I agree with Jeff, that can be a tough one to pan. Great job.

This was a bit easier than yours. .

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Feb 25, 2013 22:36 as a reply to  @ jwol's post |  #846

Nicely done John. I was lucky last week to capture the arrival of the Navy's "Flying Sigmoidoscope" at NAF El Centro.

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Feb 25, 2013 22:40 |  #847

Excellent capture Jeff. So much motion but still nice and sharp. How were you setup for this one? I'm unable to see the EXIF


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Feb 25, 2013 22:50 |  #848

Leftcoast_Mike wrote in post #15652505 (external link)
Excellent capture Jeff. So much motion but still nice and sharp. How were you setup for this one? I'm unable to see the EXIF

Thanks Mike. I was playing with my 24-70L and slow shutter speed panning. I thought it would be fun to capture wide angle images at close range and panning at slow shutter speeds.

I actually shot this image from my tripod with the ballhead totally leveled and and then I used its very smooth function to rotate with the Prowler as it landed. My keeper rate was dismal at best. This is one of the very few shots where the entire aircraft was in focus. Based on this one time experiment, I believe panning at slow shutter speeds with a wide angle lens is problematic. I've never had this problem with my 70-200L or 100-400L.

I tried handheld, various f/stops, shutter speeds and ISO's. The handful of good images I obtained are a mystery to me. Once I changed the shutter speed to 1/1000th, it became easy to keep things in focus, but I lost the motion smear. As the scientists say; more study is required. BTW, I added a little touch of "glow" to the image in post processing and found that it enhances the motion smear.


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Feb 25, 2013 23:03 |  #849

yipDog Studios wrote in post #15419871 (external link)
Nice! LOL!! Hard to tell but I think there's some prop blur too! Ha ha!

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Feb 26, 2013 00:51 |  #850

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I've never had this problem with my 70-200L or 100-400L.

The problem with panning a wide-angle lens is that there is a very significant distance lens/subject distance change during the pan - with a tele objective the distance between camera and corner of subject is almost the same as the distance between camera and center of subject. The bigger depth-of-field for the wide-angle lens can't make up for the change in size of the different parts of the plane as you pan.

And there is a bigger rotation of the camera that results in a large perspective change with you initially look towards nose of plane and end the pan by looking from slightly behind the plane.

In the end, you can get same results as standing close to a race track and try a pan a car that corners - you may end up with the front of the car in focus while the back of the car have lots of blur. Or fail to get anything in focus since the distance between camera and car also changes during the pan.


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Feb 26, 2013 00:59 |  #851

pwm2 wrote in post #15652792 (external link)
The problem with panning a wide-angle lens is that there is a very significant distance lens/subject distance change during the pan - with a tele objective the distance between camera and corner of subject is almost the same as the distance between camera and center of subject. The bigger depth-of-field for the wide-angle lens can't make up for the change in size of the different parts of the plane as you pan.

And there is a bigger rotation of the camera that results in a large perspective change with you initially look towards nose of plane and end the pan by looking from slightly behind the plane.

In the end, you can get same results as standing close to a race track and try a pan a car that corners - you may end up with the front of the car in focus while the back of the car have lots of blur. Or fail to get anything in focus since the distance between camera and car also changes during the pan.

Parallax error!
Take a peek at the nose vs tail of my T-35 shot above (post 844) and you'll see it. This was with the 70-200 at about 100mm. The slow shutter (1/100) adds to the effect.


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Feb 26, 2013 02:28 |  #852

By comparison, 500mm and some compression minimize said effect...

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Mar 03, 2013 23:10 |  #853

500mm + 1.4X TC
1/125 @ f/13 ISO 100 + 1/2EC

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Mar 05, 2013 02:34 |  #854

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Same specs as above...

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Mar 05, 2013 16:15 |  #855

Jay; excellent as they always are but I had to do this. Mines going the other way & the sun is behind it & it's much smaller.

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