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Oct 08, 2005 17:48 |  #1

Shot these for a local shop last night, pretty sweet. The yellow on is supercharged, I was too afraid to get on it. Now my STi feels like a damn Geo Metro. :)

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Oct 08, 2005 17:49 |  #2

Some behind the scene pics to get a different perspective.

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Oct 08, 2005 17:54 |  #3

that blue and white GTS has always been one of my favorite "attainable" cars. Very nice.


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Oct 08, 2005 18:57 |  #4

cool setup you got there, and thanks for sharing!

I feel you should of moved the car a little further away from the wall. It looks like you have more room to spare. The car looks too close to the background.


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Oct 08, 2005 19:11 as a reply to  @ SonicZoom's post |  #5

Nicely done. One of my favorite "reasonably" priced cars too.


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Oct 08, 2005 21:13 |  #6

Awesome cars and great shots. I like getting a look behind the scenes as well although I wish there were a few more of the yellow viper ;)


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Oct 08, 2005 22:02 |  #7

Gotta love the Viper. :D I'm with Lxmcc on wanting to see more of the Yellow Viper. ;) Who was the other guy shooting? Was He doing a promo shoot, and you were documenting Him? :cool:
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Oct 09, 2005 00:44 |  #8

Thanks all. I'm the guy in the picture, a friend who wants to get into photography was there with me and he took some shots of me shooting.




  
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Oct 09, 2005 00:45 |  #9

One more yellow Viper

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Oct 09, 2005 07:59 |  #10

Good start! Not easy, is it? ;)


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Oct 09, 2005 09:25 |  #11

Sweeeet, that new pic is awesome, thanks!


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Oct 09, 2005 10:27 as a reply to  @ lxmcc's post |  #12

Nice shots.:D


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Oct 09, 2005 14:43 |  #13

jack278 wrote:
Shot these for a local shop last night, pretty sweet. The yellow on is supercharged, I was too afraid to get on it. Now my STi feels like a damn Geo Metro. :)



just take him out on a windy road and then lets see who will take it.. lol ahh good ole AWD


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Oct 09, 2005 14:53 as a reply to  @ mikeisbeast's post |  #14

I like the last pic of the yellow Viper. The harsh-ish lighting on the (my) front right and the dark background gives it a menacing air.


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Oct 12, 2005 12:59 as a reply to  @ mikeisbeast's post |  #15

mikeisbeast wrote:
just take him out on a windy road and then lets see who will take it.. lol ahh good ole AWD

Despite what you hear in car commercials, AWD doesn't help you corner at all. Quite the opposite really, every production car that rolls off the assembly line understeers from the factory, which means that by trying to add power through the front wheels they will understeer even more (and they do).

Yes, AWD can be successful in racing, not because you hit the apex at a quicker speed, but because you can apply more throttle at the exit and get a jump on the guy next to you, but it adds weight, adds to parasitic power losses through the drivetrain, and tends to either induce torque-steer or reduce steering feel depending on how hard you boost the power steering (if there is any).

In a Viper vs Evo race on the street, stock for stock, with equal drivers (that's the real key here), the Viper would spank the Evo silly. REALLY silly. While the Viper is a "low-tech" American machine with "Oh my Gawd!" pushrods ... it makes more torque at idle than the Evo does ever. It has mountains of mechanical grip (is there a better kind? =) that come by way of the 275s out front and 335s out back. It has a lower center of gravity than the Evo, similar weight, significantly more power, torque, and area under the curve ... and as of the SRT-10, some of the best braking distances in the industry (mostly afforded through the aforementioned tons of mechanical grip).

The Viper is NOT the "straight-line" vehicle most assume it is. In fact, it is highly UN-desireable for drag racing with its low center of gravity and independent rear suspension (axle hop is a BAD thing).

For the record, I was a track instructor for two years.

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