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Jun 12, 2011 16:22 |  #61

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Thanks for the Blue Screen software link krb. Below is what it says... basically it's the NT kernel crashing, not a driver.

Could an overheating video card do this? A quick google suggests 74 is within the operating range of the card.

051411-11980-01.dmp 14/05/2011 2:30:29 p.m. SYSTEM_SERVICE_EX​CEPTION 0x0000003b] 00000000`c0000005 fffff800`02afd431 fff​ff880`0847bd00 0000000​0`00000000 ntoskrnl.ex​e ntoskrnl.exe+7fd00 N​T Kernel & System Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Microsoft Corporation 6.1.7601.1​7592 (win7sp1_gdr.110408-1631) x64 C:\Windows\​Minidump\051411-11980-01.dmp 4 15 7601 291,8​72

FYI - The x05 code is a memory access exception. One or another of your processes apparently attempted to write or branch to an invalid (protected) location in the kernel. If you search the minidump and find the process name win32k.sys, you might be suspicious of your video card. It's one of the few user drivers that are allowed to link into ntos territory.


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Jun 13, 2011 00:55 |  #62

The PC has been totally stable since I took the extra RAM out, so i'm going to blame that. I've had 3 days uptime over the course of a week of us, including a bunch of standby/resume cycles, so I think it's all good now.

Thanks to everyone who helped track the problem down :)


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Jun 13, 2011 03:37 |  #63

Unless you have an IR thermometer, you're relying on a tiny thermistor reading to tell you the core temperature? I'd pull the cooler off and make sure it is seating correctly on the GPU, check whether there is enough heat transfer paste on there, better yet just throw an air cooler on there.


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Jun 13, 2011 04:08 |  #64

Frank_The_Tank wrote in post #12583898 (external link)
Unless you have an IR thermometer, you're relying on a tiny thermistor reading to tell you the core temperature? I'd pull the cooler off and make sure it is seating correctly on the GPU, check whether there is enough heat transfer paste on there, better yet just throw an air cooler on there.

Thanks for your thoughts Frank, but problem solved - it was mismatched RAM.


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Jun 13, 2011 04:10 |  #65

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Thanks for your thoughts Frank, but problem solved - it was mismatched RAM.

go on - put them back in to be sure... ;)


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Jun 13, 2011 04:21 |  #66

I could probably put the other ones back in and have them work fine, maybe. I'll just put them on trademe.


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Jun 13, 2011 11:16 |  #67

tim wrote in post #12583527 (external link)
The PC has been totally stable since I took the extra RAM out, so i'm going to blame that. I've had 3 days uptime over the course of a week of us, including a bunch of standby/resume cycles, so I think it's all good now.

Thanks to everyone who helped track the problem down :)

Well, good luck. :) Just a note, though. This thread is interesting because I have two almost identical machines - same MB, same OS, same size and brand drives. One has 8GB, the other has six, the first is a 9550 and the second a 9400. The the 8MB machine is matched RAM, the six MB is unmatched.

The 8MB keeps failing on memory exceptions, or execution exceptions in low ram at random intervals. If I take out either bank of RAM down to 4GB, it runs forever. The 6GB machine has never had the problem.

Curious, huh?


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Jun 13, 2011 12:04 |  #68

Hen3Ry wrote in post #12585365 (external link)
Well, good luck. :) Just a note, though. This thread is interesting because I have two almost identical machines - same MB, same OS, same size and brand drives. One has 8GB, the other has six, the first is a 9550 and the second a 9400. The the 8MB machine is matched RAM, the six MB is unmatched.

The 8MB keeps failing on memory exceptions, or execution exceptions in low ram at random intervals. If I take out either bank of RAM down to 4GB, it runs forever. The 6GB machine has never had the problem.

Curious, huh?

This is pretty common. Sometimes increasing the voltage to your memory will resolve the issue but do so at your own risk.




  
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