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May 15, 2011 07:52 |  #1

Hi,

purchased some external hard drives today thinking if I keep shooting RAW I will need them.

Prior to going DSLR I owned a point and shoot. When we went on holidays, birthdays, christmas etc etc I would copy all the photos for each event and store on a hard disk in a folder under the name of the event. It was the only way I could keep things tidy.

Does anyone else use this method, what methods for reliable storage and logical arrangement do you guys use?

What is your procedure after a shoot? I come home copy to two hard drives and then work on them via the pc. Damn these RAW files take up some real estate!!!!!


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May 15, 2011 07:55 |  #2

I organize by...

- Year
--Location or Event
---Date
----Picks (aka Best Of / Posted to website)

...via Adobe Lightroom


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May 15, 2011 08:17 |  #3

My setup is:
Year
Month
yyyy/mm/dd + text description

When I get home I use Breezebrowser Pro to view, compare and rank the files on the card and to download the keepers to my internal HD. Then I import them into Lightroom without moving them, attach two externals and copy the files to them retaining the same folder hierarchy. At the end of the year I delete all the year's photos from the internal (and change the LR catalog association to one of the externals) and create a new year folder for the coming year, leaving me with two copies on the two externals.


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May 15, 2011 10:17 |  #4

mine is similiar to tzalman's.
year\month\date-camera sequence#

I then use Lightroom to apply relevant keywords such as locations, names, events, etc. You don't need lightroom to do this there are plenty of other software packages that let you easily apply keywords.

I believe firmly that your physical storage should be as simple as possible and that you should apply metadata to describe your images. I believe this because most images can be described in more than one way. For example, you might have a photo of your grandmother, from your vacation to disneyworld, on your son's birthday. So, when you are looking for the photo you have to try to figure out which place you might have filed it. Moreover, what if you decide you want to see all the images you have of your grandmother. Easy to do with keywords, much harder if you have to go through all your folders.




  
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May 15, 2011 10:23 |  #5

What software are you using to organize your pictures?

Generally I organize and catalog mine similar to Elie; Year / date, and sometimes date with brief text description. E.g. 2010-05-22-CedarPointNT.
Once I have sorted through and decided which stay and which get trashed I'll I use keywords which might include things such as, location, event, subject, persons name.
Keywords are what will make it easy to locate specific pictures later on down the road.


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May 15, 2011 10:33 |  #6
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I first import into LR3 as year/date with filenamed as yyyymmdd-### (as in year, month, date-sequence number).

Once I have selected (using combination of ratings, colors, and flags), processed then I move the photos under folders named by events/occasions/photo​shot - retaining filenames. Export files as jpeg in these folders, and move raw files under sub-folder RAW. For example,

My pictures
--Events & Occasions
----Diwali Shows
------Diwali Show 2010 (this is where I would save my exported jpegs)
--------RAW (save my raw files for Diwali Show 2010)
--Photo Shoot
----Priti & Manesh
------RAW

and so on.

Jpegs are also catalogued in LR.

I use keywords and Smart Collections extensively to group photos across multiple folders.

Any photos that donot make the cut are delete (I know some will say one should never delete any photos!).



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May 15, 2011 12:01 as a reply to  @ csondagar's post |  #7

I just set up my Raw files yesterday because I'm getting Lightroom and want everthing to be organized so that it will be on going thru the years and months.

My pictures is a mess with misc things so I just created a folder called Raw Files. I have sub folders with the Year then month/day/description.

..Raw Files
...2011
....4-21 Beach
....5-10 Nature Walk




  
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May 15, 2011 12:39 |  #8

tzalman wrote in post #12412461 (external link)
My setup is:
Year
Month
yyyy/mm/dd + text description

Then I import them into Lightroom without moving them, attach two externals and copy the files to them retaining the same folder hierarchy. At the end of the year I delete all the year's photos from the internal (and change the LR catalog association to one of the externals) and create a new year folder for the coming year, leaving me with two copies on the two externals.

My procedure is very similar to tzalman's.

month/day/year - text description

I have 2 terabit harddrives - one for lightroom3/photoshop, the other for my DNGs
These all get copied to 2 external harddrives with the end of a year having a new start for the internals by erasing and storing the externals separately and in fire/water safe.


just a few of my thoughts...
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May 15, 2011 12:54 as a reply to  @ pbelarge's post |  #9

I organize my image folders the same as many others do firstly by year, then by month. If the shoot is something specific then I will put that in a folder under the month but generally everything gets dumped into the month folder. This can leave me with thousands of images in one month but I spend the time upfront to keyword absolutely every image and when I go looking for something I can find it very quickly. I split my personal and commercial work into separate library databases. If you get your images into a digital asset manager (dam) of some sort finding your images will be a snap. It really doesn't matter where on your hard drive(s) you put them as the database will remember. It takes time to apply keywords and ensuring that your IPTC info is correct but you will not regret the time investment.

I back up to external drives once a week and I have some important folders that I back up to an external online service. I keep most of my RAW shots and normally only one version of the processed file. Originals and processed files are kept in separate databases. I have all of my computers networked together and collectively have 11TB of internal hard drive space and then the externals.


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May 15, 2011 20:40 |  #10

As you can see, there are various approaches to this -- it all does after all boil down to personal preference. The key is to take an approach to "digital asset management" (DAM) that will enable quick accurate access over a range of dates and subject matter and also to ensure security and permanence through a reliable way of backing up your data, one that becomes a nice straightforward habit.

In fact, for someone first sorting this stuff out, it wouldn't hurt to get ahold of a helpful resource -- The DAM Book by Krogh. He is one who has developed a good comprehensive system and passes it and the whole idea along.

But still it's up to the individual -- I don't do everything exactly as he says, but what I do works for me:)!

You also note that many or most of who posted here are using Lightroom. There is a reason for this -- Lightroom was designed to facilitate an image organizing/managing system in a way that is integrated with other photography tasks such as Raw development, printing, Web output, etc.

But, if you don't have Lightroom, you can still "git 'er done" -- you can use, for example, the Canon software EOS Utillities or ZoomBrowser to download and rename your images and store them in your specified destination. I know that there are some keyword "things" also in the Canon software, although since I've never worked with them I can't comment on them. I would say, though, that I consider keywording a very important part of setting your library up for quick access, not just from a certain app like Lightroom, but using any of various apps that are "keyword aware". There are in fact third-party apps that do in fact let you enter keywords and other metadata that are not about "Raw developing" so would be used alongside of, say, Digital Photo Professional.

That brings up another point -- in my approach, I organize files and folders to be "recognizeable" from any approach I wish to take, whether it be the Lightroom Catalog, DPP, or the system file browser. So, naming files and folders immediately is a basic part of my process. I initially import a shoot using Lightroom onto an internal hard drive to make my short-term processing as speedy as possible -- Lightroom names the files and folders in my specified names which include a date and a description. Like I said, this is to facilitate a "recognize anywhere" approach whether from DPP, Bridge or Lightroom. After short-term processing the folders are moved onto an external hard drive in the appropriate Year parent folder and backed up onto a separate external drive. I have several drives with Year parent folders, and then a huge backup drive where they all fit:)!

Well, there I go being long-winded, but I hope I contributed something useful:)!


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