Would you call a 60D a super rebel?

I was looking at the dpreview and they said:

The 60D is probably best understood as a 'super Rebel' - it's a more comfortable, more flexible and faster-to-use version of Canon's justly popular entry-level DSLRs. The twin dial controls, better grip and bigger viewfinder will delight stills shooters while the articulated screen and movie control will please would-be videographers.

http://www.dpreview.co​m …ws/canoneos60D/​page20.asp

I never felt that way about the 50D and though they feel different I thought they were in another class than the rebels.

edit: I also remember them not liking the 50D. Are they biased against Canon?

You have to divorce yourself from the idea that the 60D follows the 50D. It doesn't...

The 60D, IMO, falls between the Rebels and the 7D (if you fancy sports / action) or the 5DMkII (if your tastes run to studio / landscape.)

Weren't all the xxD bodies more or less super Rebels? I mean they almost always matched up feature to feature except for ergonomics, size/weight, and a few extra features. The 7D was the first body to offer significant improvement to something other than the firmware.

gjl711 wrote in post #12423720
Weren't all the xxD bodies more or less super Rebels? I mean they almost always matched up feature to feature except for ergonomics, size/weight, and a few extra features.

You and I seem to have different definitions of "matched up" and "a few extra features."

The Rebels have always matched up (or exceeded) the xxD series in terms of sensors, image quality and megapixels.

The xxD series have always had better AF, more frames per second, tougher metal contruction, ability to use CF cards instead of the smaller and slower SD cards, and "a few extra features" like a PC port to control off-camera flash units. The 50D also had AF adjustment which has never been offered on a Rebel series camera. They are certainly not 1-series cameras but they offered several advantages over the smaller Rebels.

The 60D gives up all of the "xxD features" except the AF, which is why it was very quickly dubbed the "Super Rebel." And there's nothing wrong with that because the Rebel series -are- good cameras.

The 60D is what the Rebel series should have been for the past several years and the 7D is what the 50D should have been.

No I wouldn't call it a super rebel. I call it a 60D

who cares...this horse was beat to death when the 60D first came out

I never claimed that there were not advantages, the xxD has always offered things that were not available in the xxxD line. So what's so bad about a Super Rebel?

I'd call it a camera.

People get all hung up in the idea their camera is "prosumer" or "pro", or "consumer". The XXD series is based on the old Elan bodies which were in their day solidly in the Low mid of Canon's line with the 1 series still being on top, Single digit (A2 or 3) series in the middle, then Elan, and finally Rebel.

Suddenly when the Elan body went digital, it was "prosumer". Canon has basically realigned itself with it's old model lineup again with the 1 series still being on top, then the Single Digit series (7D, 5D), then the two digit series, then the Rebels.

If it makes you feel better, the 60D is prosumer, at worst it's consumer, but to me it's a camera.

krb wrote in post #12423828
You and I seem to have different definitions of "matched up" and "a few extra features."

The Rebels have always matched up (or exceeded) the xxD series in terms of sensors, image quality and megapixels.

The xxD series have always had better AF, more frames per second, tougher metal contruction, ability to use CF cards instead of the smaller and slower SD cards, and "a few extra features" like a PC port to control off-camera flash units. The 50D also had AF adjustment which has never been offered on a Rebel series camera. They are certainly not 1-series cameras but they offered several advantages over the smaller Rebels.

The 60D gives up all of the "xxD features" except the AF, which is why it was very quickly dubbed the "Super Rebel." And there's nothing wrong with that because the Rebel series -are- good cameras.

The 60D is what the Rebel series should have been for the past several years and the 7D is what the 50D should have been.

The standards for DSLRs would be way too high though.

FlyingPhotog wrote in post #12423674
You have to divorce yourself from the idea that the 60D follows the 50D. It doesn't...

The 60D, IMO, falls between the Rebels and the 7D (if you fancy sports / action) or the 5DMkII (if your tastes run to studio / landscape.)

The Canon EOS 60D is a digital single-lens reflex camera from Canon. It is part of the Canon EOS line of cameras and succeeds the EOS 50D. It was publicly announced on August 26, 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Canon_60D

Yes, it is a super rebel.

arch.cm wrote in post #12424554
The Canon EOS 60D is a digital single-lens reflex camera from Canon. It is part of the Canon EOS line of cameras and succeeds the EOS 50D. It was publicly announced on August 26, 2010.

http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Canon_60D

Hmmm, you don't seem to grasp that the XXD line was downgraded with the 60D, i.e. they reduced the spec's to be much closer to the Rebel series, and litterally only the name succeeds the 50D, the XXD is now a different class of camera.

rhys216 wrote in post #12424754
Hmmm, you don't seem to grasp that the XXD line was downgraded with the 60D, i.e. they reduced the spec's to be much closer to the Rebel series, and litterally only the name succeeds the 50D, the XXD is now a different class of camera.

Wrong, or at the very minimum, very misleading, here we go again...

There are more specs shared with the 7D than with the rebel, and only a few things "downgraded" (loosely used term) from the 50D.

The 60D Supports groups A and B for Speedlite wireless control.

I call it what it is - perfect for me. These 60D troll bait threads are getting old and really starting to harm the forum, can we just lay them to rest? Some people will get the camera and love it, some will only see what it didn't have and hate it, many without ever actually living with the camera for a long period of time and finding that it does a lot more right than it does wrong.

Anyone who thinks that the 60D is a "downgrade" from previous xxD bodies has been sniffing something. There are a couple of things that are indisputably not as good and a great many more things that are indisputably better.

I'll take a 60D over a 50D every time.