Would you call a 60D a super rebel?

tkbslc wrote in post #12426973
Funny how all the detractors are non-60D owners. Meaning all their conclusions are based on internet research instead of actual camera use.

Personally, I don't own a 60D, but I think the negative press has more to do with assumptions than reality.

What negative press? It was pretty well received and reviewed by all of the major internet sites. It's more like negative water cooler talk from people who held one once in a store and made a rash generalization and never actually used it.

cameraperson wrote in post #12427041
I wish I wouldn't have asked the question. I didn't read in the other 60d thread. I was a little offended by the dpreview comment (I don't own the 60d but have played with it), so I posted.

Are you being serious?

cameraperson wrote in post #12423643
I was looking at the dpreview and they said:

The 60D is probably best understood as a 'super Rebel' - it's a more comfortable, more flexible and faster-to-use version of Canon's justly popular entry-level DSLRs. The twin dial controls, better grip and bigger viewfinder will delight stills shooters while the articulated screen and movie control will please would-be videographers.

http://www.dpreview.co​m …ws/canoneos60D/​page20.asp

I never felt that way about the 50D and though they feel different I thought they were in another class than the rebels.

edit: I also remember them not liking the 50D. Are they biased against Canon?

Your post is nearly self-defeating. You equate the comparison as an insult, meaning you find the Rebel line faulty, because you feel something being a "super" Rebel is still bad. If so, why allege they have bias when you post your own?

Keyan wrote in post #12427046
What negative press? It was pretty well received and reviewed by all of the major internet sites. It's more like negative water cooler talk from people who held one once in a store and made a rash generalization and never actually used it.

See 90% of 60D threads on this forum...

People that have actually used the camera seem to like it.

And I don't see why being called a super-Rebel is a negative. The Canon Rebel line is the best selling DSLR series, period. So being a superior camera to that (hence super) is probably a pretty good compliment. The Rebel line is a consumer oriented camera, so the connotation is that the 60D is less of a prosumer and more of a consumer model. If that alone bothers you, then you have some insecurities to work out.

rhys216 wrote in post #12427068
Are you being serious?

yes. I'm serious. I liked the Canon so it bothered me. I remembered other reviews I read where I thought they were being hard on Canon also.

cputeq007 wrote in post #12427072
Your post is nearly self-defeating. You equate the comparison as an insult, meaning you find the Rebel line faulty, because you feel something being a "super" Rebel is still bad. If so, why allege they have bias when you post your own?

Because I'm a lowly consumer who doesn't know what they're talking about.

You said it....

Oh, c'mon. It's all a matter of perspective here. The 7D is a "toy" to 1Dmk3 and d3s owners. And a 1Dsmk3 seems like a toy next to a Hasselblad kit. If you take offense because someone considers your camera beneath them, then you bought a camera for the wrong reason.

tkbslc wrote in post #12426973
Funny how all the detractors are non-60D owners. Meaning all their conclusions are based on internet research instead of actual camera use.

Who's a detractor? The 60D is an excellent camera. Period. So are the various models in the Rebel series and the feature set of the 60D is in many ways more Rebel than xxD with the most important "new" feature of the 60D being the lower price.

If the 60D truly had been designed as the next xxD camera then it would have been a 7D with different packaging. But Canon already had the 7D so the choice was either kill the xxD series or make the next xxD camera be more Rebel-like with a reduced feature set to keep the price down. And that's exactly what the 60D is.

krb wrote in post #12427161
Who's a detractor? The 60D is an excellent camera. Period. So are the various models in the Rebel series and the feature set of the 60D is in many ways more Rebel than xxD with the most important "new" feature of the 60D being the lower price.

If the 60D truly had been designed as the next xxD camera then it would have been a 7D with different packaging. But Canon already had the 7D so the choice was either kill the xxD series or make the next xxD camera be more Rebel-like with a reduced feature set to keep the price down. And that's exactly what the 60D is.

+1

Exactly right, I don't see why some people find pointing out the facts upsetting.

krb wrote in post #12427161
Who's a detractor? The 60D is an excellent camera. Period. So are the various models in the Rebel series and the feature set of the 60D is in many ways more Rebel than xxD with the most important "new" feature of the 60D being the lower price.

If the 60D truly had been designed as the next xxD camera then it would have been a 7D with different packaging. But Canon already had the 7D so the choice was either kill the xxD series or make the next xxD camera be more Rebel-like with a reduced feature set to keep the price down. And that's exactly what the 60D is.

Don't argue that, but there are certainly plenty of people with hostile attitudes toward the 60D just because of the specs. I can see not wanting the camera, but there is definite hostility there.

I can argue both sides here. Super rebel doesn't have to be an insult, but those throwing out the term generally mean it as such.

the 60D is a camera in Canon's DSLR lineup with features that equate to a few hundred dollars more than the Rebel T2i that came out during the same period.
It also doesn't have features that the 7D has, thus costing a few hundred dollars less than that model, which also happened to come out during that same period.

super Rebel
or
lacking 7D

potato / potato..

it is what it is.
An option...

tkbslc wrote in post #12427203
Don't argue that, but there are certainly plenty of people with hostile attitudes toward the 60D just because of the specs.

Yeah, some people seem to have been emotionally attached to the xxD line and feel betrayed by the 60D. Makes no sense whatsoever.

tkbslc wrote in post #12427203
Don't argue that, but there are certainly plenty of people with hostile attitudes toward the 60D just because of the specs.

These people are simply disappointed because the camera didn't meet the expectations of the XXD moniker.
I personally feel Canon undershot the spec's as they are too close to the Rebel line imo, I think they could have added a few more features and just up'd the price a little more to avoid cannibalising the 7D, as it stands the gap between the 60D and 7D is still too large imo.

krb wrote in post #12427161
Who's a detractor? The 60D is an excellent camera. Period. So are the various models in the Rebel series and the feature set of the 60D is in many ways more Rebel than xxD with the most important "new" feature of the 60D being the lower price.

If the 60D truly had been designed as the next xxD camera then it would have been a 7D with different packaging. But Canon already had the 7D so the choice was either kill the xxD series or make the next xxD camera be more Rebel-like with a reduced feature set to keep the price down. And that's exactly what the 60D is.

Who said the 60D was a bad camera? I certainly didn't. I believe its a great camera, but that doesn't change the fact that it is like a super rebel.