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May 20, 2011 06:33 |  #1

Been debating this lens vs. the 70-200 F2.8L IS II but the latter is just a little bit too pricey and too huge for me at the moment for the limited telephoto use I take advantage of. However, the 70-200 F4 IS obviously remains a cheaper competitor.

70-300 L IS:

Pros:
More reach
Smaller(when lens retracted)

Cons:
Pricey
Not AS sharp
Slower lens

Looking at reviews, the 70-300L holds its own in sharpness, at least on crop. It is definitely better at 280mm than the 70-200mm F4 with a 1.4x teleconverter.

When looking at the aperture, the 70-300 is only a half a stop or so slower at 200mm. This is the biggest problem in my book. Yes, you save a bit of money but for giving up a half a stop at 200mm you gain quite a bit of reach.

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P.S. I tried the 70-300 Tamron, it didn't meet my, admittedly high, expectations.


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May 20, 2011 06:52 |  #2

If you were considering the canon 70-200 2.8, why not consider the sigma 70-200 OS? :) Cheapest of all your options besides the tamron 70-300, and has great IQ.

What are you planning to use it for though? Personally I'd get the 70-300L if I had the money, as its a great length for a "general purpose" telephoto, its very sharp, and the aperture doesn't matter hugely as I don't shoot sports, but I can't afford it.


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May 20, 2011 07:45 |  #3

Find a used Sigma 100-300 f4, 1/2 the price..


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May 20, 2011 07:52 as a reply to  @ ShotByTom's post |  #4

Don't mean to sound pedantic, but the 70-300L is 2/3 stop slower(f/5) at 200, than the 70-200 4L. Not huge, but could take you from blur to enough shutter-speed in some circumstances.

Edit: If you throw a 1.4x TC on it, the 70-200 is slower at all FLs below ~230mm


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May 22, 2011 06:32 |  #5

I had the 70-200 F4 is, but need more reach. So I switch and don't regret it. The lens is nearly as sharp as the 70-200 and for me more usable. So sorry, can't talk you out...

On my 5DII, up to ISO 3200 is no problem for me, so F5.6 is still ok.

Have a look at this link.
http://dancarrphotogra​phy.com …review-vs-70-200-f4-l-is/ (external link)


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May 22, 2011 08:37 as a reply to  @ kalle_karlsson's post |  #6

I was considering the 70-300 IS also, but decided to go with the 70-200 f/4 IS. Yes it's shorter, but most ppl say that it loses very little if any sharpness on a 1.4x extender. What finally convinced me aginst getting the 70-300 is that I just don't like how it sticks out as you zoom. Reminds me of my el cheapo 55-250 or, to use a more colorful description, a horse's youknowhat when he's daydreaming while chewing his oats.


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May 22, 2011 09:23 |  #7

akadmon wrote in post #12456641 (external link)
Reminds me of my el cheapo 55-250

Doesn't the 70-200 f4 IS's buid quality remind you more of the 55-250 than the 70-300's extending front?


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May 22, 2011 09:35 |  #8

What's wrong with a 70-200mm f2.8 IS version I? Add a 1.4x teleconverter and you are set and have a much more versatile lens setup.


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May 22, 2011 11:34 |  #9

I just received a 70-300L to replace my 70-200L IS f/4 travel lens. I took it out yesterday on the 7D and shot some obligatory duck pictures and was quite pleased with the results. I was prepared to use my 1.4x TC with the 70-200 when longer range was needed ... but I find I never do it, usually because I simply don't have the time to fiddle with mounting it quickly before the photo-op gets away (often wildlife). Being able to just zoom in a little closer when needed is great!

BTW - I also had planned to use a 2x TC on my 70-200 MII f/2.8 in order to eliminate my large 100-400L, but that too never seems to happen. Thus I still have and use the 100-400, but they are both larger than I want to travel with and so use them when I am around home.

So ... no, I can't talk you out of the 70-300L purchase! :lol:

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May 22, 2011 11:39 |  #10

I have been eyeing this lens too but I really like my 2.8 non IS and I would imagine the IS version is even better so if I was buying today, considering the price off each lens I would opt for the 2.8 IS. I am thinking of getting a Tamron 70-300 as a travel lens and just keeping my 70-200.

The tamron seems to get good reviews and its under $500 ( smaller, lighter and black )

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May 22, 2011 14:00 |  #11

I don't even understand the purpose of this lens. 100-400L needs a serious upgrade and they come out with this when's there are already two current versions. Like to see how it does against the DO but I can't imagine the price difference is reasonable.


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May 22, 2011 14:06 |  #12

In that price range I'd look long and hard at the 70-200 f/2.8 without IS... If you really need the extra range, the 100-400 is a great lens.


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May 22, 2011 14:17 |  #13

_aravena wrote in post #12457957 (external link)
I don't even understand the purpose of this lens. 100-400L needs a serious upgrade and they come out with this when's there are already two current versions. Like to see how it does against the DO but I can't imagine the price difference is reasonable.

I have owned a 70-300 DO for many years, but just recently sold it in order to help with the purchase of the 70-300 L lens and another which I am still working towards.

I did like the DO lens, although image quality wasn't its strongest point, especially at the "new" price point. I think it is a great lens at the "used" price it is selling at. The DO was my travel lens, specifically because of the short physical length which allowed inconspicuous street shooting, and because I was able to get it in to stadiums and other venues where "professional cameras" were not allowed, usually by the staff simply measuring the physical length of the lens.:confused:

The DO lens seems to require additional considerations and skills to get the most out of it, but it is a very capable lens and can produce excellent images. However, my initial impressions with the new 70-300 L lens are well exceeding those of the DO lens and without some of the precautions when taking or processing the images. I have never owned the original non-L 70-300 (having been burned by the 75-300), so can't compare that model.

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May 22, 2011 14:24 |  #14

shedberg wrote in post #12457991 (external link)
In that price range I'd look long and hard at the 70-200 f/2.8 without IS... If you really need the extra range, the 100-400 is a great lens.

Yes, those are excellent choices too, but they are considerably larger than the 70-300 L lens. If size is an issue, such as for travel, I find I don't take the larger lenses unless the specific purpose of the trip is for photography opportunities. I will admit I am slightly worried about the weight of this lens when walking about all day with it in the bag (the 70-200 f/4 is much lighter), so I will have to see how that plays out for me.

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May 22, 2011 17:43 |  #15

hfgarris wrote in post #12458082 (external link)
Yes, those are excellent choices too, but they are considerably larger than the 70-300 L lens. If size is an issue, such as for travel, I find I don't take the larger lenses unless the specific purpose of the trip is for photography opportunities. I will admit I am slightly worried about the weight of this lens when walking about all day with it in the bag (the 70-200 f/4 is much lighter), so I will have to see how that plays out for me.

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