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I'll be sure to let you guys know if I pick it up.

Very good price point, I would still mull it over though but that's just me being fickle

ziyius wrote in post #14270057
Thank you for the advice. It's an 1 Million+ Serial M3 in good shape with three lenses... the 35 f/2, 50 f/2 and a 135 for under $1000

Is that a fair price?

I will re-buy from you at that price. Thats a great deal even if everything is not great shape.

Very nice^^

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I'm not sure how to feel about the M Monochrome. It seems kind of... pointless personally.

bsaber wrote in post #14414713
I'm not sure how to feel about the M Monochrome. It seems kind of... pointless personally.

i believe it depends on the person. I shoot monochrome all the time pretty much, so i wouldn't see a difference and the enhanced ISO would be very beneficial in very low light so it is kind of ok, but not $8k ok

What i don't get is the extremely overpriced summicron.

The new Summicron is not a replacement (yet) of the former - but rather a parallel product. You will need the new M Monochrom to realize the full benefit, but even the M9/M9-P will see an increase in performance. The corners/edges are as good as the center, from wide open. It truly pushes the limits of all sensors in the M. Where it will really shine is in the as yet unannounced M10. You're talking basically medium format quality in a true 35mm format camera.

The M Monochrom isn't for everyone, clearly. But if you shoot a lot of B&W this really is as good as it gets. The benefits of digital, the look of film... Sort of in between. The specialized sensor eliminates the bayer filter for the ultimate in resolution and light gathering - it makes the 18MP sensor look more like 24-36MP. Finally, considering the M9/M9-P only hit ISO 2500... It does amazingly well (and better) up to ISO 10,000.

As for the prices all around, well... Yeah. Insane.

Double Negative wrote in post #14416823
The new Summicron is not a replacement (yet) of the former - but rather a parallel product. You will need the new M Monochrom to realize the full benefit, but even the M9/M9-P will see an increase in performance. The corners/edges are as good as the center, from wide open. It truly pushes the limits of all sensors in the M. Where it will really shine is in the as yet unannounced M10. You're talking basically medium format quality in a true 35mm format camera.

The M Monochrom isn't for everyone, clearly. But if you shoot a lot of B&W this really is as good as it gets. The benefits of digital, the look of film... Sort of in between. The specialized sensor eliminates the bayer filter for the ultimate in resolution and light gathering - it makes the 18MP sensor look more like 24-36MP. Finally, considering the M9/M9-P only hit ISO 2500... It does amazingly well (and better) up to ISO 10,000.

As for the prices all around, well... Yeah. Insane.

I think this is the ultimate black and white camera
http://www.achromaticp​lus.com …tic_Plus/Achrom​atic+.html
http://www.achromaticp​lus.com …c_Plus/Image_Qu​ality.html
but alas its not compact nor a rangefinder....

Agreed, on all counts. It too is very expensive. But man, I'd love one of those for my Hassy.

The ultimate B&W camera is an 8X10 Deardorff, the photographer and his knowledge of the zone system but if you are talking about a great digital camera for street photography the M9 and a 35mm lens is about as good as it gets. These are just tools and the Leica M had proven itself over the years as being a great tool for the street. .

airfrogusmc wrote in post #14418913
The ultimate B&W camera is an 8X10 Deardorff, the photographer and his knowledge of the zone system but if you are talking about a great digital camera for street photography the M9 and a 35mm lens is about as good as it gets. These are just tools and the Leica M had proven itself over the years as being a great tool for the street. .

Thats a film camera, I am talking digital. Yes Leica's are great street cameras, so are SLR's. Its just a preference dude.

J_TULLAR wrote in post #14419829
Thats a film camera, I am talking digital. Yes Leica's are great street cameras, so are SLR's. Its just a preference dude.

I think you said and I quote "I think this is the ultimate black and white camera". Neither the camera you mentioned or an 8X10 view camera are well suited for street work but the there are real reasons most of the great street photographers have shot and still shoot with Leica M. DSLRs can do street work no doubt. You can do street work with a Hasselblad or an RZ to but the real gem on the street is a small discrete rangefinder and Leica M is about as good as it gets so proper tool for the job. I mean the lenses actually have decent DoF scales and there is no autofocus in the world faster than being pre-focused.