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May 25, 2011 21:19 |  #61

When I first go into SLR shooting, I couldn't stand the sound of the flapping mirror of one popular brand...and loved my Nikon F sound...Now I prefer the 40D mirror thud over the clank of the 30D, which I hated when I traded up from the 10D...but I get over it

...same for my latest golfing driver...I've never really liked its metal-on-ball "click", but the results from this club are the best I'd ever had so I got over it and have kept it in the bag now for 3+ years...a couple of lifetimes longer than most people keep drivers..."sound" familiar?


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May 25, 2011 21:27 |  #62

JamieMc83 wrote in post #12476817 (external link)
UUhm no troll.

I have never used Nikon. But keep getting suggestions that I should switch over.
So I want to know good reasons not to switch.

Who cares what they say....unless they're right? :D

What reasons do they give? Are they right? Then switch. Are they wrong? Then don't. Is it subjective? Then just shoot what you want and who cares what "they" say. You make up your own mind. It's not heaven or hell. It's okay even if you get it wrong. Try again. Shoot Pentax or Sony next time until you get what you like. Whatever gives you the photography bug and gets you out shooting.


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May 25, 2011 21:58 |  #63

JamieMc83 wrote in post #12476793 (external link)
Someone give me reasons not to switch to nikon.

IMO The only reason to choose one or another is, which body have the features you need, and later see you what features you want...how the body feels in you hands and how easy you get to use it (menus) then see in which brand are the focal's you will need/want and fit your budget. If you are going third party lenses then focus more on the body features/handling/etc.​.

That are the only reasons to stay on one brand, because nowdays every brand have great quality. for example If nikon came right now with a new body with something that fit my needs, I will switch without a problem .. The argument that a lot of people say of losing money doesnt fit with me.. Because maybe i'm loosing more (money or enthusiasm for keep shooting) staying with a brand that doesn't fits my needs anymore..

My .02 cents.

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May 25, 2011 22:02 |  #64

Get some black gaf tape and cover up the Canon logo. Then get a silver sharpie and write Nikon on the tape, and your family will never know the difference. And it will be cheaper and less trouble than all that selling and buying and reading another new operator manual.


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May 25, 2011 22:38 |  #65

Yeah... I had to grab the D7000 sitting next to me to confirm the "can't turn off High ISO NR". There are, in fact, 4 settings to choose from, one of which is "OFF".

jwcdds wrote in post #12478154 (external link)
Well, I never mentioned anything about dynamic range and it is true (according to most reviews and technical sources) that the new Nikon sensor (or is it Sony) has greater DR than other APS-C sensors available on the market today. (As this is a wonderful thing to see and hopefully will light a fire under Canon's sensor-development department.)

But all one needs to do is flip open the Nikon D7000 manual and it will tell you. Page 205 towards the bottom of the page if you need referencing:

HIGH ISO NR - OFF
Noise reduction is only performed at ISO sensitivities of ISO 1600 and higher. The amount of noise reduction is less than the amount performed when Low is selected for High ISO NR.

I only bolded the parts that were printed in bold in the manual, not trying to stress something or throw it in anyone's face.


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May 25, 2011 22:38 |  #66

Hold on guys. Im going to get my Troll spray....


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May 25, 2011 22:42 |  #67

I had the 30D for a couple years, but the shutter button was shot... The cleaning methods listed in several threads on this forum did not work.

I had been looking at upgrades for about a year, and none of the Canons seemed just right. It was like Goldie Locks and her porridge... The 7D was too big, and the 60D was too small. The D7000 was just right. Do I think it will make magical images, and turn me into a pro? Nope... But I wanted an upgrade, I wasn't heavily invested in Canon lenses, and it just felt right. No regrets.


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May 25, 2011 22:50 |  #68

stevemacko wrote in post #12480427 (external link)
Yeah... I had to grab the D7000 sitting next to me to confirm the "can't turn off High ISO NR". There are, in fact, 4 settings to choose from, one of which is "OFF".

Not sure if I'm reading your response right. So are you agreeing that High ISO NR can never be turned off, despite that you can select it to be "OFF"? Or were you trying to correct me, even though I took the words out of the Nikon D7000 manual word-for-word regarding that even when it's selected "OFF," there is still NR at 1600 and higher?

stevemacko wrote in post #12480457 (external link)
I had the 30D for a couple years, but the shutter button was shot... The cleaning methods listed in several threads on this forum did not work.

I had been looking at upgrades for about a year, and none of the Canons seemed just right. It was like Goldie Locks and her porridge... The 7D was too big, and the 60D was too small. The D7000 was just right. Do I think it will make magical images, and turn me into a pro? Nope... But I wanted an upgrade, I wasn't heavily invested in Canon lenses, and it just felt right. No regrets.

Good to hear. As long as as you're comfortable and happy with the tool you're using, that's what counts.


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May 25, 2011 22:57 |  #69

jwcdds wrote in post #12480504 (external link)
Not sure if I'm reading your response right. So are you agreeing that High ISO NR can never be turned off, despite that you can select it to be "OFF"? Or were you trying to correct me, even though I took the words out of the Nikon D7000 manual word-for-word regarding that even when it's selected "OFF," there is still NR at 1600 and higher?
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You are right..

PG 205 of the user manual

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IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
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May 25, 2011 23:48 |  #70

the only thing that matters is what YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH.
forget all these technical things people are spouting out. just do whatever makes you happy. I started on canon and loved it. I went to nikon and loved it even more. at the end of the day, your camera is a tool that you alone have to use. go to a camera store and try a couple newer nikon cameras out. if you like, sell all your canon stuff and switch.

i had the exact same set up as you also (xt though) and when i switched over i did miss the ergonomics of canon though. make sure it's something you ABSOLUTELY want to do because there is nothing wrong with your current set up imo.


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May 26, 2011 01:01 |  #71

Not correcting you... Correcting the poster whom you were correcting. I said it has an "OFF" setting. How can I be trying to refute you, when we agree?

jwcdds wrote in post #12480504 (external link)
Not sure if I'm reading your response right. So are you agreeing that High ISO NR can never be turned off, despite that you can select it to be "OFF"? Or were you trying to correct me, even though I took the words out of the Nikon D7000 manual word-for-word regarding that even when it's selected "OFF," there is still NR at 1600 and higher?

Good to hear. As long as as you're comfortable and happy with the tool you're using, that's what counts.


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May 26, 2011 01:40 |  #72

CyberManiaK wrote in post #12480537 (external link)
You are right..

PG 205 of the user manual
IMAGE NOT FOUND
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I can't speak for the D7000, but the wording for the D700 is similar (except it's for Hi 0.3 = ISO 8000 and higher) and I know from testing that when set to "Off" High ISO NR is only applied as stated above to jpegs. Zero NR is applied to Raw files.


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May 26, 2011 01:44 |  #73
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Their most expensive lenses don't look nearly as cool as ours..and ours are cheaper.


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May 26, 2011 02:26 |  #74

stevemacko wrote in post #12481051 (external link)
Not correcting you... Correcting the poster whom you were correcting. I said it has an "OFF" setting. How can I be trying to refute you, when we agree?

Hence I asked for clarification. :) I blame it on my ESL ehjuhmakeshen.


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May 26, 2011 07:11 |  #75

Because they don't have big white lenses.... duh.....

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