Reducing 1.3 crop by.1 at a time

pwm2 wrote in post #12584175
Most 5D2 owners would have payed extra to get it better weatherprotected and with better AF. Canon should not have needed much money extra to cover these issues, while still leaving lots of differences up to a more expensive 1Ds body.

What might seem like a small difference can make a big difference in cost, particularly when it involves tighter manufacturing tolerances, metal machining, and hand fitting. The true weathersealing of the 1-Series, additional machined and fitted parts like the memory card door, and the tighter tolerances of the focusing screen and box are examples.

Of course. But a big difference in cost doesn't really matter. Why? Because the shell, as is, is so cheap that twice the cost is still little money.

pwm2 wrote in post #12584414
Of course. But a big difference in cost doesn't really matter. Why? Because the shell, as is, is so cheap that twice the cost is still little money.

I don't know that the market for whom the 5D is intended would really want to pay two or three hundred dollars more just for 1-series weatherproofing. I suspect that Canon has done enough market research to know what will meet their sales goals, regardless of forum self-polls.

From my perspective Canon has always done a pretty decent job on reading the market and giving the consumers what they want overall. Of course there are going to be those specific users who feel they have been wronged by Canon because they didn't get something in their body that they feel Canon could have included. Let's face it Canon is in the business of making camera gear and other equipment and they have to make their shareholders happy. Personally I like the way they have it split up with the 5D as prosumer body for those that want just about all of the 1 series functions and then the split of the 1 series bodies between the crop and FF. Even though I always keep one of each of the 1 bodies if I had a preference for the crop body and had to pay the extra cash for a single 1 series body that was FF I would be ticked.

Canon does listen to its professional community for what they are looking for in its next generation of the 1 series. Many of that functionality is moved backwards into its prosumer and consumer bodies. I've always found them willing to listen. You simply have to look at it as a whole and there will always be those that feel they are alot smarter than the marketing people and engineers at Canon and feel they have been wronged. At the end of the day it is about shareholder value while still providing a product that the market will go for.

RDKirk wrote in post #12578877
Several years ago, a Canon Inc executive indicated that Canon intended to go to a single 1-series camera.
http://www.e-fotografija.com …publish/article​_440.shtml

Hmm, "nodding" was not an answer to "will the next generation be one high resolution and speed camera?". And that sounds like an area of mis communication due to language difference. Canon will never give out info about what new models will have. If asked questions they'll give vague answers to give an answer without telling what they are working on. Such as "we will consider that.." or "we want to meet the needs of our customers", etc.

HappySnapper90 wrote in post #12628428
Hmm, "nodding" was not an answer to "will the next generation be one high resolution and speed camera?". And that sounds like an area of mis communication due to language difference. Canon will never give out info about what new models will have. If asked questions they'll give vague answers to give an answer without telling what they are working on. Such as "we will consider that.." or "we want to meet the needs of our customers", etc.

As I read that, he both laughed and spoke, "That's what we are requesting from Canon Tokio as well."

As I read that, he both nodded and spoke, "Yes."

RDKirk wrote in post #12578877
Several years ago, a Canon Inc executive indicated that Canon intended to go to a single 1-series camera.
http://www.e-fotografija.com …publish/article​_440.shtml

However, they never have. I suspect that as long as the professionals who want the very highest frame rates (which, given their best technology, will always be more possible with slightly less data to carry and a slightly smaller mirror), they have decided to keep producing the 1.3 crop.

RDKirk wrote in post #12628559
As I read that, he both laughed and spoke, "That's what we are requesting from Canon Tokio as well."


As I read that, he both nodded and spoke, "Yes."

Again, more communication barrier. Canon doesn't say what they'll do next! End of story dude.