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May 31, 2011 22:03 |  #1

The Valley Center Hornet Softball Team made it into the State Tournament this year. I am not so sure about the the umpire's call in pictures 6 and 7. C&C welcome.

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Jun 01, 2011 00:54 |  #2

You're going to have to explain #6/7 what the umpire is calling out when the player doesn't have the ball? I'm assuming it was a force out at second and the runner broke up the double play?


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Jun 01, 2011 07:01 as a reply to  @ DHMN's post |  #3

I say this, for the Ump to call the br out...the fielder caught the ball and while attempting to throw, the ball slipped out of her hand.




  
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Jun 01, 2011 09:15 |  #4

Nice series. The 1D2/300 combo was my field sports workhorse combo for years and it rarely disappoints. Your images testify to that. Very nice shooting angles and good job on mixing it up. Color, exposure, sharpness and action are all there so I really can't offer any crit, nice job man.

On the call, no way could she have been in the motion of throwing based on her arm movement in #6. Looks more like the ball may have been tossed to her after a short hit to the pitcher and she fumbled it. If I am right, she's obviously safe, it Magic is right, she's definitely out. Sooooo? What happened?


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Jun 01, 2011 13:01 |  #5

namasste wrote in post #12515303 (external link)
On the call, no way could she have been in the motion of throwing based on her arm movement in #6. Looks more like the ball may have been tossed to her after a short hit to the pitcher and she fumbled it. If I am right, she's obviously safe, it Magic is right, she's definitely out. Sooooo? What happened?

It seems like she could have been making a sidearm throw and dropped it.. that makes a bit of sense with the comment 'Magic 24' added but the arm angle looks strange


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Jun 01, 2011 13:35 |  #6

DHMN wrote in post #12516615 (external link)
It seems like she could have been making a sidearm throw and dropped it.. that makes a bit of sense with the comment 'Magic 24' added but the arm angle looks strange

I'll give that, certainly possible but if so, I then wonder if she ever really had control of it. An open, upward palm with her arm low and at that angle seems REALLY awkward for even an attempted throw if she had any control of the ball in the first place. Its like the crop circles, we may never know? :lol:


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Jun 01, 2011 14:40 |  #7

namasste wrote in post #12516816 (external link)
I'll give that, certainly possible but if so, I then wonder if she ever really had control of it. An open, upward palm with her arm low and at that angle seems REALLY awkward for even an attempted throw if she had any control of the ball in the first place. Its like the crop circles, we may never know? :lol:

Who knows, maybe a frame later shows the ump calling safe and pointing at the loose ball :D Any maybe there are aliens flying above Minnesota today


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Jun 01, 2011 14:57 |  #8

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maybe there are aliens flying above Minnesota today

now THAT is believable. In fact, I think some may be living there!


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Jun 02, 2011 08:11 |  #9

unpredictable situations are what makes baseball, (softball) so interesting to me. I've umpired Little League to HS baseball. Just when you think you've seen it all, something new can happen. No idea on earth what was going on on that play.

My GUESS is that defensive player #7 received a throw from the pitcher, forced runner (sliding) at 2nd, and decided to underhand the ball back to the pitcher and jump out of the way of the sliding runner ensued.

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Jun 02, 2011 18:32 as a reply to  @ snyderman's post |  #10

Congrats to Mark. Five state playoff softball pics (color) in the paper including #s 1, 3, 5, and 6. Eight track images in the same issue. Great job!


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Jun 04, 2011 13:00 |  #11

Thanks for the comments everyone. The way the play went down the gal to the right in the visor fielded the ball coming off the bat she then attempted to flip it the gal with the Under Armor head band. The player with the head band never had control of the ball. I am glad my assignment was to get a few images for the paper, I wouldn't want any part of being an umpire.


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Jun 04, 2011 14:52 |  #12

That means the umpire corrected himself on the dropped ball, correct?

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Thanks for the comments everyone. The way the play went down the gal to the right in the visor fielded the ball coming off the bat she then attempted to flip it the gal with the Under Armor head band. The player with the head band never had control of the ball. I am glad my assignment was to get a few images for the paper, I wouldn't any part of being an umpire.


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Jun 04, 2011 14:59 |  #13

Unfortunately no, the play stood as called. As you could imagine the coach was not too happy.


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Jun 04, 2011 15:09 |  #14

Was the ball in her glove at any point? He could then rule that she lost the ball 'in the exchange' from her glove to her hand to make the next throw


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Jun 04, 2011 16:56 |  #15

The ball never made it into her glove. No one is perfect and this was just one of those calls. This single call would not have changed the outcome of the game. I know things happen quickly in these types of situations and I am sure the ump did his best in making the call from his vantage point, and that is all we can ask. It's a pretty thankless job as I see it.


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