First time I tried my 17mm TS-E (Tilt shift) at a wedding

Tried my Tilt-Shift for the first time at this wedding. I kinda like it, but in a different way than most people use it. Most people tilt to get that puketastic weird blur effect, but I brought it along for SHIFTING. I mainly bought the lens for architecture so I'm more of a shifter than tilter, but I thought I'd try it at a wedding.

1. Shifted upwards a few degrees

Sorry, but why bother? You could get these results with a plain prime... at a fraction of the cost.

amonline wrote in post #12520546
Sorry, but why bother? You could get these results with a plain prime... at a fraction of the cost.

No you can't... that's the whole reason I brought it out. BTW... only 1 and 4 were taken with the TS-E. Previously, I'd just get low, shoot pointed upwards, and distort the shape of the people. But with the TS-E, I can use it just like how I use it for my architectural work: keep the lens axis parallel to the ground, and then shift to get the vast sky or whatever I want to see (like the bridge), all while creating minimal distortion on the people.

amonline wrote in post #12520546
Sorry, but why bother? You could get these results with a plain prime... at a fraction of the cost.

incorrect.

So, you really only used it on #4. You should rewrite your OP. You made it sound like you used it for every shot. Which was possible; and thus, why I said what I did.

In #1, you can't really see the effect.

Like I said, (with the exception of #4) I can get these shots with one of my primes - which IS true.

in #1 you can definitely see the effect, with a regular ultra-wide angle all the trees on the sides would have been distorted, pointing into the frame and the people would have appeared way too tall.

how much was the lens?

amonline wrote in post #12522938
Like I said, (with the exception of #4) I can get these shots with one of my primes - which IS true.

Wrong, you could get similar shots with more distortion but no way you could get the same exact shot without PP work. Any of the shifted plane of focus would be impossible with anything other than a TS-E, that's why they exist.

I like the set. I really like that you can't tell it's a TS-E, that's how it should be

They all look really nice. I keep looking at these and am drawn to No. 8. Wonderful colors and capture and very obscure, in a good way, too.

i don't see a HUGE differece than any other lens.

nice pictures.

Svetlana wrote in post #12523466
in #1 you can definitely see the effect, with a regular ultra-wide angle all the trees on the sides would have been distorted, pointing into the frame and the people would have appeared way too tall.

Not in LR. I know, because I adjust 24mm and 15mm shots all the time. However, I will agree, there will be a slight difference, albeit.. very nominal.

scubthebub wrote in post #12523502
Wrong, you could get similar shots with more distortion but no way you could get the same exact shot without PP work. Any of the shifted plane of focus would be impossible with anything other than a TS-E, that's why they exist.

That's interesting; since the OP clarified to say the rest were NOT shot with the TS.

I'm sorry I commented. I was merely saying that the shots in general did not fit the description - to which Lloyd confirmed when he supplied further information. Again, it was merely miscommunication regarding the actual use of the TS-E. IF they had ALL been shot with the TS-E, then my original statement (except #4 and objectively, #1) is true.

led hed wrote in post #12523511
i don't see a HUGE differece than any other lens.

And that's all I was pointing out.

I can understand how some may have been confused. I figured commenting on 1 and 4 in the OP would have been obvious enough but I was wrong on that. Sorry guys.

And yes, to me, good tilt shift work doesn't look obvious that you used a tilt-shift. Most people would have never guessed if I haven't mentioned it. But the difference if you compared the non-TS shots to equivalent TS shots would be huge side by side.

My question is...how did you light everyone in #1, Lloyd? How many flashes did you use and how did you position them?

Svetlana wrote in post #12524394
My question is...how did you light everyone in #1, Lloyd? How many flashes did you use and how did you position them?

One light. A 17" beauty dish about 1.5 metres above my head firing at 400ws. Speedlites are great for couples, but they are short on power for group photos. 400ws is about 7 580EX units put together.

But for e-shoots, I'm usually fine with one 580EX.

picturecrazy wrote in post #12524574
One light. A 17" beauty dish about 1.5 metres above my head firing at 400ws. Speedlites are great for couples, but they are short on power for group photos. 400ws is about 7 580EX units put together.

But for e-shoots, I'm usually fine with one 580EX.

Thank you!!