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Jun 02, 2011 12:30 |  #1

I'm coming from an original 1D, so I'm used to syncing with my PW's at virtually whatever damn speed I want. Kinda scared about the 1/200 sync speed. How far can you push it with a Mini TT1 on top?


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Jun 02, 2011 12:47 |  #2

gosundevils wrote in post #12522997 (external link)
I'm coming from an original 1D, so I'm used to syncing with my PW's at virtually whatever damn speed I want. Kinda scared about the 1/200 sync speed. How far can you push it with a Mini TT1 on top?

I no longer have my 5Dc, but with the TT1 on the 5D2, I get a clean 1/250" and ~10% bottom black curtain at 1/320". Even better on the 1D3.

Plus, when you cross over from ControlTL HyperSync into HSS, the TT1 also gives you more light power than standard HSS. (If you had 580EX-II in your profile, I'd add a warning about the flash tube issue, but since you have 550EX [which I also use], you'll be OK)

What type of shooting are you using fast sync speeds for? Overpowering the sun at wide aperture?


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Jun 02, 2011 12:48 |  #3

You're lucky if you can get 1/200th (at least with CyberSyncs) on a 5Dc. The true safe sync speed of the 5Dc is really 1/160th. I've heard others say that fresh batteries will help your percentages if you use 1/200th, but I also think there were some saying that it made no difference. YMMV.




  
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Jun 02, 2011 13:07 |  #4

clarence wrote in post #12523104 (external link)
I no longer have my 5Dc, but with the TT1 on the 5D2, I get a clean 1/250" and ~10% bottom black curtain at 1/320". Even better on the 1D3.

Plus, when you cross over from ControlTL HyperSync into HSS, the TT1 also gives you more light power than standard HSS. (If you had 580EX-II in your profile, I'd add a warning about the flash tube issue, but since you have 550EX [which I also use], you'll be OK)

What type of shooting are you using fast sync speeds for? Overpowering the sun at wide aperture?

Reducing ambient, yeah. Also to keep my flash powers under full so I can get a nice 1/1000 duration out of them and freeze motion for the few times I still shoot skateboarding. Definitely used it a lot with the 1D when shooting stuff like this:

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Shot at sunset facing the sun. ISO100, 1/800, f/1.4.

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Jun 02, 2011 14:48 |  #5

With 5d not much. I can only push to 1/320 using mini/flex. On 1dmk2 I can easily do 1/640.


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Jun 02, 2011 14:50 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #6

1/320 is better than nothin' for me.


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Jun 02, 2011 15:04 |  #7

gosundevils wrote in post #12523767 (external link)
1/320 is better than nothin' for me.

But 1/320 vs 1/160-1/200 doesn't help for motion.


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Jun 02, 2011 15:04 |  #8

gosundevils wrote in post #12523233 (external link)
Reducing ambient, yeah. Also to keep my flash powers under full so I can get a nice 1/1000 duration out of them and freeze motion for the few times I still shoot skateboarding. Definitely used it a lot with the 1D when shooting stuff like this:

Shot at sunset facing the sun. ISO100, 1/800, f/1.4.

Yep... just wanted to make sure you had a good understanding of what the capabilities and limitations were.

I find ControlTL/Hypersync works great for wide apertures where you don't want to over-expose the background... as long as your flash is within 5'-10' from your subject.

Contrary to naysayers, it can also work great in sports when you want to let your shutter speed freeze motion. Especially if you don't have sufficient flash power to overcome ambient by 2 or 3 stops. Or if you want fill flash in harsh sun. Again, the flash(es) have to be within reasonable distance to the subject. But I've also used a Better Beamer for getting a lot of reach with HSS (or better yet, the PW ControlTL/Hypersync optimization of HSS).


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Jun 02, 2011 15:13 |  #9

bobbyz wrote in post #12523843 (external link)
But 1/320 vs 1/160-1/200 doesn't help for motion.

I know, but it works for getting less ambient in the exposure so I can shoot at lower flash power levels. The lower flash power level decreases the flash duration. My sunpaks at 1/2 have a duration of 1/1000sec. I use that to freeze motion.


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