Say you work for a newspaper, is it proper to use fill flash on a bright, easy ISO100 day, or would the fill flash provide a less realistic image than the flashless image?
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SunnyOctopus Senior Member 455 posts Joined Oct 2010 More info | Jun 02, 2011 18:30 | #1 Say you work for a newspaper, is it proper to use fill flash on a bright, easy ISO100 day, or would the fill flash provide a less realistic image than the flashless image?
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dmward Cream of the Crop More info | Jun 02, 2011 18:32 | #2 One does whatever one must to get the best possible images. David | Sharing my Insights, Knowledge & Experience
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ni$mo350 Cream of the Crop 6,011 posts Likes: 14 Joined Apr 2009 Location: Portland, OR More info | Jun 02, 2011 18:34 | #3 |
Jun 02, 2011 18:39 | #4 When does one cross the line? Obviously, cloning things in and out isn't allowed, even thought that could make an image nicer...
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ni$mo350 Cream of the Crop 6,011 posts Likes: 14 Joined Apr 2009 Location: Portland, OR More info | Jun 02, 2011 18:42 | #5 This is one of my favorite sites. Browse through the albums and it should give you an idea.. -Chris-Website
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dmward Cream of the Crop More info | Jun 02, 2011 18:46 | #6 Fill flash is adding light to the scene and then photographing it. David | Sharing my Insights, Knowledge & Experience
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Jun 02, 2011 19:06 | #7 So, then I can't add fill light in RAW? Graduated exposure adjustments to deal with blown out skies? What about saturation? Dodging and burning?
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xhack Goldmember 1,283 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Edinburgh, Lothian More info | Jun 03, 2011 01:26 | #8 The Rule of Thumb I worked by in film days was that you can change the presentation of the image (exposure, dodging, burning, time in bath); you do not alter content (adding, removing, or manipulating elements of the picture). You can crop, as long as you do not alter context relating to the central point of the image. ~ Wallace
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SavasK Goldmember 1,425 posts Joined May 2007 More info | Jun 03, 2011 04:14 | #9 If realistic means having a darkened barely visible subject against a bright backdrop being printed on newsprint with far less range, then don't use the fill flash.
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Sam6644 Senior Member 691 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jan 2010 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio More info | Jun 03, 2011 04:22 | #10 The Associated Press will fire you for burning and dodging these days, according to my photojournalism professor who currently does work for the Associated Press (among many, many others). my site (very outdated at this point)
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xhack Goldmember 1,283 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Edinburgh, Lothian More info | Jun 03, 2011 05:29 | #11 Sam6644 wrote in post #12527494 The Associated Press will fire you for burning and dodging these days, according to my photojournalism professor who currently does work for the Associated Press (among many, many others). Fill flash is ok. Really? That's a tad anal. I suppose Photoshop has propelled everyone to the stupidly PC end of the spectrum. ~ Wallace
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SavasK Goldmember 1,425 posts Joined May 2007 More info | Jun 03, 2011 06:02 | #12 xhack wrote in post #12527086 You can crop, as long as you do not alter context relating to the central point of the image. Which news bureau was lambasted for cropping out Palestinian weapons in a photo taken on a flotilla boat invaded by the Israelis?
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xhack Goldmember 1,283 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jul 2007 Location: Edinburgh, Lothian More info | Jun 03, 2011 06:50 | #13 Savas K wrote in post #12527672 Which news bureau was lambasted for cropping out Palestinian weapons in a photo taken on a flotilla boat invaded by the Israelis? Don't know - which? I'm guessing AP? ~ Wallace
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Sam6644 Senior Member 691 posts Likes: 3 Joined Jan 2010 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio More info | Jun 03, 2011 15:22 | #14 xhack wrote in post #12527603 Really? That's a tad anal. I suppose Photoshop has propelled everyone to the stupidly PC end of the spectrum. Photo-journalism marks events in a historical context and it's somewhat precious to impose a blanket ban on dodging and burning. After all, the very initial act of snapping an image involves an editorial judgement in timing, angle, distance and exposure. Opportunity? If you happen to capture a 3-stop under-exposed shot of Obama being violated by a sex-crazed gerbil, or QEII being attacked by a homocidal pigeon, I think you're justified in tweaking it up in PP to capture some image of the event. Provided, of course, you 'fess up in the caption exactly what you've done. Or am I hopelessly Old School? Correcting exposure is ok, but it's the selective burning and dodging that will get you in trouble. my site (very outdated at this point)
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RPCrowe Cream of the Crop More info | Real Photojournalists All use Flash See my images at http://rpcrowe.smugmug.com/
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