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Does anyone actually make a decent living from this?

 
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Jun 05, 2011 21:58 |  #16

If you don't care about your soul and really just want to make money, generate a buzz big enough to get hired as a pitchman for photography stuff like lightspheres, actions, and lighting gear. Or write a book and headline seminars.

There's more money in selling the dream than living it.


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Jun 05, 2011 22:11 |  #17

cdifoto wrote in post #12542588 (external link)
If you don't care about your soul and really just want to make money, generate a buzz big enough to get hired as a pitchman for photography stuff like lightspheres, actions, and lighting gear. Or write a book and headline seminars.

There's more money in selling the dream than living it.

ouch. sad but true.


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Jun 05, 2011 22:18 |  #18

cdifoto wrote in post #12542588 (external link)
If you don't care about your soul and really just want to make money, generate a buzz big enough to get hired as a pitchman for photography stuff like lightspheres, actions, and lighting gear. Or write a book and headline seminars.

There's more money in selling the dream than living it.

Case in point:

www.strobist.com (external link)

The holy grail of making money talking about pictures -- more than taking them.

Not that I mind -- its just theres a lot more money in feeding the sheep than selling their wool.


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Jun 05, 2011 22:27 |  #19

To answer the question, yes, some one/few make a living at this. The definition of living will and does vary from person to person. If you go by the average, according to a recent Wall St. Journal study, the average full time photographer makes $28k a year. Top five percent earns $60k. Think $60K is a lot? Factor in health care, insurance, expenses, and you will realize how little it is. 401k? Nope, so you will have to find away to save about 15% of your salary if you want any shot at retirement. Equity? Nope, once you quit, you have none.

That is not to say there are not successful photographers out there, there are, but they make up a fraction of total photographers. The forum members often get crap for discouraging others to dive into the photography business, but with good reason. Many have been there and felt the pinch. Keep shooting and good luck.


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Jun 05, 2011 22:32 |  #20

Old thread here: Poll: On Average - How much do you make a year on photography?
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=974256

Wedding photographer make as much as doctor ;)


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Jun 05, 2011 22:36 |  #21

And they eat well during the cocktail hour.


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Jun 05, 2011 22:59 |  #22

x_tan wrote in post #12542791 (external link)
Old thread here: Poll: On Average - How much do you make a year on photography?
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=974256

Wedding photographer make as much as doctor ;)

Statistically, less than a fraction of a percent of wedding photographers make as much as the starting doctor.

Let's go for a dream case scenario for some wedding photographers, which is rare. 50 weddings a year at $3k a piece. $150K a year before taxes. According to recent employment data, these represent a fraction of a percentage of photographers. Taxes take 30%. Individual or family heath insurance? That will run another $3-$5K. Dental insurance? Liability insurance? Travel? Hotels? Repairs? Assistant costs? Studio costs? After all expenses, you are lucky to be between $60K-$80 a year, depending on location. Then you have to factor in saving for retirement. Suggested that you will need to save 15% to even have a shot at retiring at 65.

Not saying that is not good money, it is, but it is not doctor money. There is a reason photography is ranked as one of the worst jobs and has the worst ROI in terms of college costs.


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Jun 05, 2011 23:07 |  #23

the Doctor bid was a joke, hence the winking smiley face. ever consider plumbing ... Everyone needs to take a crap.


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Jun 05, 2011 23:09 |  #24

H204NYC wrote in post #12542933 (external link)
the Doctor bid was a joke, hence the winking smiley face. ever consider plumbing ... Everyone needs to take a crap.

talk about job security


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Jun 05, 2011 23:09 |  #25

I apology, ImCBParker.
Thank you for the insight.
The old thread may give me some misleading information.


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Jun 05, 2011 23:09 |  #26

^I do not know of one broke plumber :lol:




  
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Jun 05, 2011 23:12 |  #27

x_tan wrote in post #12542940 (external link)
I apology, ImCBParker.
Thank you for the insight.

No apology needed. Just statistically it does not hold up. There is no doubt that there are a some photographers making more than some doctors. I am sure David Lachapelle would not swap W2s with just about any doctor.


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Jun 05, 2011 23:17 |  #28

I guess I make decent money for a 24 year old right out of school. But I want more. It's not going to keep me happy forever - I know how much money I need to get what I want in life and there are easier ways to do it than photography.


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Jun 05, 2011 23:18 as a reply to  @ ImCBParker's post |  #29

The old thread here:

Roroco wrote in post #11485559 (external link)
Per http://www.indeed.com/​salary/Photographer.ht​ml (external link)
Under "Average Salary of Jobs with Related Titles" They have "Wedding Photographer" making $230,000.
How else can you read it?

Anyway, apology again if anyone is still upset about it.
Never intend to make fun about it.


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That's overstatement of the year, here in Canada doctors still are of the upper middle class.


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