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Jun 07, 2011 19:38 |  #16

Another vote for the 7D. I love my 5D-2/7D combo. They complement each other so nicely.


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Jun 07, 2011 19:49 as a reply to  @ Eric's post |  #17

Its a fantastic combo. love what my 7D did but i sold the 7D and picked up a mark111. Either way, cant beat a 5D2 and a 7D or Mark111. Awesome set ups for sure


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Jun 07, 2011 21:42 |  #18

doc.paradox wrote in post #12554397 (external link)
I shoot two bodies at weddings and I must agree with the consensus here ~ keep the 7D.

The 5D MK II and 7d complement each other very well. Interchangeable batteries, CF cards and if you have the 580 EX II ~ a quick change speedlite. I use a Black Rapid double strap and on one side I have the 7D with flash bracket and flash, and usually a 17-55 (or 35L) mounted, . . on my other hip sits the 5DMK II with a 70-200 MK II. I'd guess I cover 70% of a wedding this way with minimal lens changes.

Much of the day I find myself working the 5D and then grabbing the 7D for an environmental shot of the same scene. Back and forth, repeat and rinse. Sure the fast primes come out for their showcase uses and ultra wide for the odd-ball specialty shot, but in general: In my experience, the combination of 7D/17-55 (or 35L) with flash & 5D MKII/70-200 MKII with the ISO capabilities of the 5D ~ there aren’t to many situations you can't capture well and quickly.

7D & 5D MK II & L glass = match made in heaven ;-)a

Absolutely agree, they are designed as siblings and it is quite easy to switch between them due to the identical menu setup, controls, etc. There is virtually no user lag when switching between these cameras, they are so very similar.


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Jun 08, 2011 03:48 |  #19

5Dc for sale :)

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Jun 08, 2011 06:45 |  #20

doc.paradox wrote in post #12554397 (external link)
I shoot two bodies at weddings and I must agree with the consensus here ~ keep the 7D.

The 5D MK II and 7d complement each other very well. Interchangeable batteries, CF cards and if you have the 580 EX II ~ a quick change speedlite. I use a Black Rapid double strap and on one side I have the 7D with flash bracket and flash, and usually a 17-55 (or 35L) mounted, . . on my other hip sits the 5DMK II with a 70-200 MK II. I'd guess I cover 70% of a wedding this way with minimal lens changes.

Much of the day I find myself working the 5D and then grabbing the 7D for an environmental shot of the same scene. Back and forth, repeat and rinse. Sure the fast primes come out for their showcase uses and ultra wide for the odd-ball specialty shot, but in general: In my experience, the combination of 7D/17-55 (or 35L) with flash & 5D MKII/70-200 MKII with the ISO capabilities of the 5D ~ there aren’t to many situations you can't capture well and quickly.

7D & 5D MK II & L glass = match made in heaven ;-)a

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Jun 08, 2011 06:49 |  #21

I don't understand why you'd have a wide lens on a crop body and a long lens on a full frame body. Is it just me?




  
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Jun 08, 2011 08:08 |  #22

Looking at the OP's lens lineup, all I see is less versatility, not more, having both a crop and a FF. My personal opinion is that, unless you also own some specific ef-s lenses, 2 crops or 2 FF's are give you the most opportunities to mix and match lenses when shooting with 2 cameras.

One reason why I am selling my 7D to buy another 5DII.


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Jun 08, 2011 08:35 |  #23

To me, the 5D classic lags behind technology and feature wise.
The body design is over 5 years old. In todays world, that is a long time.
Like doc. said above, the 5d Mark II and 7D complement each other very well.
I will be adding and 5D Mark II or III in the near future to complement my 7D's.


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Jun 08, 2011 09:02 |  #24

bohdank wrote in post #12557005 (external link)
Looking at the OP's lens lineup, all I see is less versatility, not more, having both a crop and a FF. My personal opinion is that, unless you also own some specific ef-s lenses, 2 crops or 2 FF's are give you the most opportunities to mix and match lenses when shooting with 2 cameras.

One reason why I am selling my 7D to buy another 5DII.

Having these 2 isn't about most opportunities to mix and match lenses however. At least with what I shoot, it is about the versatility of what I shoot, not the versatility of switching lenses I shoot with. This is why I don't get the comments of "which glass should I get if I plan on changing formats later". I advocate getting the appropriate glass for the format you shoot with now for what you shoot. Worry about the glass later if/when you change formats or even sport multiple formats.

I had more sports and wildlife oriented glass sitting with the 7D (and the 17-55 for all purpose shooting), and more wide/fast glass with the 5D2 for scenery and portraits, back when I had both. If I am shooting a ballgame for our softball team, the 7D was out most of the time for the game, but team photo or individual photos would bring the 5D2 out. No lens swapping, no major changes in settings, etc. Plus I really dislike changing glass between bodies, even periodically. :)

This is why I keep saying that if you try either format or have both formats, chances are you will have some dedicated glass for each format, with a couple of floaters that you may switch back and forth as needed.


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Jun 08, 2011 09:46 |  #25

robertwsimpson wrote in post #12556778 (external link)
I don't understand why you'd have a wide lens on a crop body and a long lens on a full frame body. Is it just me?

Good question as this setup does seem anti-intrinsic to the 1.6 crop and how you would utilize the extra reach, as well as getting the most out of your FF sensor and IQ.

To paraphrase George Kastansa "It's not just you, It's Me" :)

But seriously Robert for me it pans out like this: As I mentioned this is my running rig for 70% of a wedding. Group Portraits sees the 35 on the FF and 50 on the crop. If I'm wandering around for table and couples shots its a Tokina 11-16 on the crop and 35 FF, . . on and on with many variables. My shooting approach at a wedding is that during the ceremony, (and the remaining of guesstimated 70%) I want the tighter money shot to be with the IQ of the 5D and the wider environmental shots are superbly handled by the 7D/17-55/580 EX II, . . which in MHO is a magical and versatile combo for a large part of the varied conditions found in a wedding environment. In fact, for this very reason I have so far avoided (another way of saying I can’t inve$t yet!) getting another 16-35 for the full frame.

For Sports, Racing, Air Shows, BIF and other such voyeuristic pursuits the 5D MK II rests (at the ready) with a 35 while the long(ish) distance work horse: 7D/ 1.4 x/70-200/ combined with the extraordinary AF of the 7D, makes reaching out to a 448 equivalent (@f/4) and nailing high rate keepers, as easy as shooting ducks in a barrel.

Hope that explains my “logic” and you think me less a crank, . . :lol:

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Jun 08, 2011 09:54 |  #26

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Having these 2 isn't about most opportunities to mix and match lenses however. At least with what I shoot, it is about the versatility of what I shoot, not the versatility of switching lenses I shoot with. This is why I don't get the comments of "which glass should I get if I plan on changing formats later". I advocate getting the appropriate glass for the format you shoot with now for what you shoot. Worry about the glass later if/when you change formats or even sport multiple formats.

I had more sports and wildlife oriented glass sitting with the 7D (and the 17-55 for all purpose shooting), and more wide/fast glass with the 5D2 for scenery and portraits, back when I had both. If I am shooting a ballgame for our softball team, the 7D was out most of the time for the game, but team photo or individual photos would bring the 5D2 out. No lens swapping, no major changes in settings, etc. Plus I really dislike changing glass between bodies, even periodically. :)
This is why I keep saying that if you try either format or have both formats, chances are you will have some dedicated glass for each format, with a couple of floaters that you may switch back and forth as needed.



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Jun 08, 2011 14:47 |  #27

The ability to mix and match is the issue for me since I shoot with 2 cameras. If I only brought 1 or the other with me, then, yes, that changes everything.


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Jun 08, 2011 14:59 |  #28

Had 5d and 40d and got a 7d and 5DmkII. I liked the 5d except for the constant cleaning of the screen. I sold my 5d and use the 5dmkII and the 7d. These bodies complement each other: short focal lengths (<100mm)on the 5DmkII and long focal lengths (>=100mm) on the 7d.


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Jun 08, 2011 15:47 |  #29

Keep the 7D! I kept the 5D when I got the 5DMKII figuring it would be my 2nd camera. Seldom use it as the combo I find myself packing is always the 5DMKII and the 7D.


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Jun 08, 2011 15:59 |  #30

You cannot beat the 5D2/7D combination.

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