Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
Thread started 07 Jun 2011 (Tuesday) 17:45
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

AI Servo vs One shot

 
TijmenDal
Goldmember
Avatar
1,214 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2010
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
     
Jun 07, 2011 17:45 |  #1

Searchbar!

I know! I've been through 20 threads already but didn't find the answer I was looking for I think.

Now I know the differences and use them accordingly. The only real question I have is: Why would you use One Shot?

Personally, I use it myself as well: Buildings, landscape, scenes w/e. I only do so because I feel like I should: It's what you're 'supposed' to use. I use AI Servo when subjects are moving, but I was just thinking why would you use One Shot at all? AI Servo starts working when the subject is moving, but as long as it isn't moving, it doesn't matter, am I right? Are there any disadvantages to using AI Servo when the subject isn't moving?

The only situation I could think of in which you would actually wouldn't be able to use is if you want to use FTM?
(and a second scenario is if one would like the subject out of focus, but let's not presume that...)

Please forgive my noobish question, but it just doesn't seem very logical to not use AI Servo 95% of the time.


//Tijmen
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/tijmendalexternal link

Gear
______________
flickrexternal link
_____________

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bior
Senior Member
Avatar
348 posts
Joined Nov 2010
Location: Silicon Valley
     
Jun 07, 2011 18:05 |  #2

Can't Focus and recompose with AI Servo.


Branden - amateur photographer for hire / bored systems administrator probably posting from work
Weapons of choice: 5D2 and a T3 / website will return soon

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TijmenDal
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
Avatar
1,214 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2010
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
     
Jun 07, 2011 18:29 |  #3

bior wrote in post #12554092 (external link)
Can't Focus and recompose with AI Servo.

Wouldn't it then be easier to just flick the AF to MF button. One tiny movement, instead of having to press a button+use the wheel (and personally I'm not that good that I don't have to look what setting I put it on).


//Tijmen
http://www.flickr.com/​photos/tijmendalexternal link

Gear
______________
flickrexternal link
_____________

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bior
Senior Member
Avatar
348 posts
Joined Nov 2010
Location: Silicon Valley
     
Jun 07, 2011 18:41 |  #4

I have whichever Custom Function enabled that turns the joystick into the focus point selector. It took a little while to get the hang of it, but now I can very rapidly choose which focal point I'm using, while looking through the viewfinder.

There are many different ways to achieve proper focus with the EOS system. Some people keep their AF-ON button for focus and only use the shutter button for metering and shooting. And the super-zooms have focus recall on their barrels.

Point is, there are many autofocus methods available and each photographer can choose the most appropriate for the situations they find themselves in. Canon's cameras tend to be VERY well designed, and no feature is present accidentally. That there are so many different ways to focus means that no one way is perfect for everyone in every situation. If there were, there would be only one way to focus.


Branden - amateur photographer for hire / bored systems administrator probably posting from work
Weapons of choice: 5D2 and a T3 / website will return soon

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Gatorboy
Goldmember
Avatar
2,483 posts
Likes: 2
Joined May 2005
Location: Bel Air, MD
     
Jun 07, 2011 18:42 |  #5

bior wrote in post #12554092 (external link)
Can't Focus and recompose with AI Servo.

Not true. My back button is used for focusing and shutter button for firing the shot. Take your thumb off the back button and you can recompose to your hearts content. My camera is in AI-Servo all the time.


Dave Hoffmann

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rral22
Senior Member
885 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2008
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada
     
Jun 07, 2011 18:51 |  #6

Gatorboy wrote in post #12554224 (external link)
Not true. My back button is used for focusing and shutter button for firing the shot. Take your thumb off the back button and you can recompose to your hearts content. My camera is in AI-Servo all the time.

For me, that is the biggest advantage to having back button focus - the ability to use Servo with an on and off function.

Point is, there are many autofocus methods available and each photographer can choose the most appropriate for the situations they find themselves in. Canon's cameras tend to be VERY well designed, and no feature is present accidentally. That there are so many different ways to focus means that no one way is perfect for everyone in every situation. If there were, there would be only one way to focus.

Absolutely. It is up to each photographer to explore the combinations and find what works.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
NeverSummer
Member
Avatar
114 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Oct 2008
Location: Colorado
     
Jun 07, 2011 19:51 |  #7

Gatorboy wrote in post #12554224 (external link)
Not true. My back button is used for focusing and shutter button for firing the shot. Take your thumb off the back button and you can recompose to your hearts content. My camera is in AI-Servo all the time.

Boy, I was wondering what he was talking about until I read your post, then I remembered that the majority of people probably use half-press to focus. I've been using the back button for so long I forgot all about it.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Overread
Goldmember
Avatar
2,268 posts
Gallery: 12 photos
Likes: 94
Joined Mar 2010
     
Jun 07, 2011 20:01 |  #8

Gatorboy wrote in post #12554224 (external link)
Not true. My back button is used for focusing and shutter button for firing the shot. Take your thumb off the back button and you can recompose to your hearts content. My camera is in AI-Servo all the time.

+1 This is how I've been working ever since I found out about backbutton AF - its a very powerful and simple feature and really makes things a lot easier. Especailly so since not all lenses have the MF/AF button in an easy position - eg my 70-200mm its very easy to reach all the switches - whilst many of my other lenses the AF/MF button is way at the back near the lens mount - shifting your hand back and fumbling around takes time - far more time than just not pressing the backbutton :)

Combined with USM/HSM lenses its great - you've all the time manual focus and you can use AF in a blink against a static or moving subject.


Tools of the trade: Canon 400D, Canon 7D, Canon 70-200mm f2.8 IS L M2, Sigma 120-300mm f2.8 OS, Canon MPE 65mm f2.8 macro, Sigma 150mm f2.8 macro, Tamron 24-70mm f2.4, Sigma 70mm f2.8 macro, Sigma 8-16mm f4.5-5.6, Raynox DCR 250, loads of teleconverters and a flashy thingy too
My flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
yogestee
"my posts can be a little colourful"
Avatar
13,845 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 41
Joined Dec 2007
Location: Australia
     
Jun 07, 2011 20:35 as a reply to  @ Overread's post |  #9

I use AI Servo 90% of the time without back button focusing. Mostly for street candids in low light.

Works for me.


Jurgen
50D~EOS M50 MkII~EOS M~G11~S95~GoPro Hero4 Silver
http://www.pbase.com/j​urgentreue (external link)
The Title Fairy,, off with her head!!

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
domat
Senior Member
485 posts
Likes: 14
Joined Jun 2010
Location: New York
     
Jun 07, 2011 21:39 |  #10

bior wrote in post #12554223 (external link)
I have whichever Custom Function enabled that turns the joystick into the focus point selector. It took a little while to get the hang of it, but now I can very rapidly choose which focal point I'm using, while looking through the viewfinder.

Oooh me want!!! Anyone know the function for that? Also while I am asking questions is there a way when you playback pictures on your camera that portraits are using the whole screen instead of it being rotated and it into the small screen?

50d

sorry for the hijack




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PhotosGuy
Cream of the Crop, R.I.P.
Avatar
75,941 posts
Gallery: 8 photos
Likes: 2611
Joined Feb 2004
Location: Middle of Michigan
     
Jun 07, 2011 23:22 |  #11

domat wrote in post #12555132 (external link)
Oooh me want!!! Anyone know the function for that?

Look in your manual under Custom Functions. On the 20D it's C.Fn-13 (2)


FrankC - 20D, RAW, Manual everything...
Classic Carz, Racing, Air Show, Flowers.
Find the light... A few Car Lighting Tips, and MOVE YOUR FEET!
Have you thought about making your own book? // Need an exposure crutch?
New Image Size Limits: Image must not exceed 1600 pixels on any side.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
LiberationFrequency
Goldmember
1,334 posts
Joined Jun 2010
Location: Montreal, QC
     
Jun 07, 2011 23:24 |  #12

NeverSummer wrote in post #12554562 (external link)
Boy, I was wondering what he was talking about until I read your post, then I remembered that the majority of people probably use half-press to focus. I've been using the back button for so long I forgot all about it.

One you go back button, you never go back.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
RichSoansPhotos
Cream of the Crop
5,981 posts
Likes: 44
Joined Aug 2007
Location: London, UK
     
Jun 08, 2011 08:09 |  #13
bannedPermanent ban

TijmenDal wrote in post #12553993 (external link)
Searchbar!

I know! I've been through 20 threads already but didn't find the answer I was looking for I think.

Now I know the differences and use them accordingly. The only real question I have is: Why would you use One Shot?

Personally, I use it myself as well: Buildings, landscape, scenes w/e. I only do so because I feel like I should: It's what you're 'supposed' to use. I use AI Servo when subjects are moving, but I was just thinking why would you use One Shot at all? AI Servo starts working when the subject is moving, but as long as it isn't moving, it doesn't matter, am I right? Are there any disadvantages to using AI Servo when the subject isn't moving?

The only situation I could think of in which you would actually wouldn't be able to use is if you want to use FTM?
(and a second scenario is if one would like the subject out of focus, but let's not presume that...)

Please forgive my noobish question, but it just doesn't seem very logical to not use AI Servo 95% of the time.


I would keep it on One Shot for landscape. AI Servo is for where the subject is very fast and/or very unpredictable




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
whuband
Goldmember
Avatar
1,433 posts
Likes: 84
Joined Jul 2007
Location: Jacksonville, Florida
     
Jun 08, 2011 10:38 |  #14

You might also consider AI Focus in low light so that the focus assist on your Canon flash provides perfect focus every time.


1D4, 6D, 7D2, Sony a6000 with Sony16-70, Rokinon 12mmf2, Canon lenses: 17-40L, 17-55 f2.8, 10-22, 50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8, 70-200mm IS 2.8, 300mm 2.8 IS, 580EXII (3), 430EX, Alien Bees.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
nathancarter
Cream of the Crop
5,474 posts
Gallery: 32 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 609
Joined Dec 2010
     
Jun 08, 2011 11:10 |  #15

I like when it beeps to confirm focus. So, I use one-shot most of the time.


http://www.avidchick.c​om (external link) for business stuff
http://www.facebook.co​m/VictorVoyeur (external link) for fun stuff

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

8,450 views & 0 likes for this thread, 20 members have posted to it.
AI Servo vs One shot
FORUMS Community Talk, Chatter & Stuff General Photography Talk 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is josetide
1013 guests, 176 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.