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Jun 14, 2011 22:56 |  #1

I'm looking lenses to have indoor shooting/models, family picture, portrait and maybe outdoor flowers pictures..I have a Rebel Xs btw. I have a EF 70-300mm which is great for telephoto..want to expand my photography a bit... Any recommendations?
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Jun 14, 2011 23:34 |  #2

get a flash if you want to shoot indoors...

what's your budget?


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Jun 14, 2011 23:36 |  #3

I would say around $500.. I want a lense that can do the job.. the EF 70-300mm is telephoto.. I don't want to stand way back




  
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Jun 14, 2011 23:51 |  #4

Get a prime...
Sigma 30mm F/1.4
Canon 35mm F/2


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Jun 15, 2011 01:03 as a reply to  @ DreDaze's post |  #5

What flash can i buy?




  
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Jun 15, 2011 01:04 |  #6

thestone11 wrote in post #12595846 (external link)
Get a prime...
Sigma 30mm F/1.4
Canon 35mm F/2

35mm f/2 looks nice




  
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Jun 15, 2011 01:40 as a reply to  @ thestone11's post |  #7

In low light situations, fast lens are better. The best Canon zoom lens would be the EF-S 17-55 f/2.8, but that lens is way out of your budget. The Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 lens would be in your budget. I have no experience with this lens. I have seen reports of people very happy with it, but I have seen a few reports of people having focus problems with it, like many Sigma lens on Canon cameras.

A prime lens like the EF 35mm f/2 also fits in your budget and would be a good choice.

I know you asked about lenses, but for indoor shooting you also need to learn how to use high ISO, even with fast lenses. You do not want to use your fast lens wide open all the time because of depth of field. If you take a picture of a group of 5 or 6 family members standing around at f/2, they are not all going to be in focus. You sometimes need to stop the camera down to get the depth of field you need. You can use flash or very high ISO. Flash is ok, if you learn how to do bounce flash. I think direct flash pictures don't look very natural.

The other choice is very high ISO. I've taken a lot of pictures indoors at ISO 6400 on my 60D. Raw these pictures look very grainy, but after putting them through noise reduction in Lightroom 3, they come our amazing good looking. Clearly they have lost fine detail compared to an ISO 100 picture. You would not want to make 24x36 enlargements from these pictures, but cropped some and reduced to a size you might display on the web, they look very good.

I have made some comparisons with the noise reduction in the free Canon DPP software. Lightroom 3 seems much better to me. I also compared Lightroom 3 NR to NIK Dfine 2.0 and I could not see much difference in the results, although the Dfine 2.0 package seemed to give you more control options. I have heard that DxO Optics Pro also has very good NR and there may be several more out there. This kind of software is not cheap or real easy to learn to use, but it does add another tool you can use with any lens in a low light situation.

The thing to keep in mind is even if you are using your f/2 lens at f/5.6 to get the DOF you need, your auto focus system operates wide open. That is the big advantage of a fast lens in a low light situation. It will AF better in marginal situations.




  
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Jun 15, 2011 01:41 |  #8

juneid wrote in post #12596078 (external link)
What flash can i buy?

i'd look at the tamron 17-50 f2.8 non IS, and then maybe a 430EX flash...should be doable for under $500 i'd think...


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Jun 15, 2011 02:30 |  #9

Is the 70-300 the only lens you have?
You don't happen to have an 18-55 IS that you are keeping a secret do you?




  
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Jun 15, 2011 02:32 |  #10

buy one of the Primes sugested here, that is the best tool for youre task.


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Jun 15, 2011 11:24 |  #11

xarqi wrote in post #12596294 (external link)
Is the 70-300 the only lens you have?
You don't happen to have an 18-55 IS that you are keeping a secret do you?

i have this, EFS 18-55m, which came with the camera




  
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Jun 15, 2011 11:45 |  #12

juneid wrote in post #12597931 (external link)
i have this, EFS 18-55m, which came with the camera

Why are you not using this lens for family pic's and when you do not want to stand farther back?


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Jun 15, 2011 11:56 |  #13

Tamron 17-50, Tamron 28-75, Sigma 17-70 OS, and sigma 17-70 non OS would all fit your needs.

Flash: The YN flashes available on ebay are good budget choices. My YN465 is simple to use. Canon flashes 270EX, 430EX or the others which are more pricey. And there are other brands out there.



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Jun 15, 2011 18:00 |  #14

GregoryF wrote in post #12598039 (external link)
Why are you not using this lens for family pic's and when you do not want to stand farther back?

If it is an IS or Mk III lens, use it.
If it isn't, your lens choices are:
- 18-55 Mk III - cheap, good optics, slow and no IS
- 18-55 IS Mk II - cheap, good optics
- Tamron 17-50/2.8 (VC or not), a SIgma 18-50/2.8 or a Sigma 17-70 (OS or not) - less cheap, faster

If you like skinny depth of field, you'll need to look at a prime like a 30/1.4 (Sigma makes a good one I think), or on a very tight budget, the EF-50/1.8, although this is a bit long for some types of APS-C portraiture.

Get a 430 EX II flash for low light use.




  
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Jun 15, 2011 19:40 |  #15

juneid wrote in post #12595621 (external link)
I'm looking lenses to have indoor shooting/models, family picture, portrait and maybe outdoor flowers pictures..I have a Rebel Xs btw. I have a EF 70-300mm which is great for telephoto..want to expand my photography a bit... Any recommendations?
Thanks

you can "expand your photography" with a flash !
Yongnuo YN 465 - Canon ETTL, manual controls, built in bounce card and diffuser - only $65 !




  
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