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Jun 18, 2011 19:54 |  #1

I only had an hour today to work on some light scenarios so I thought I'd also utilize the TS-E90 to compare using tilt vs non-tilt.

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Jun 19, 2011 13:13 |  #4

What is the effect you are trying to achieve with the Tilt lens movement? Are you trying to reduce the dof to just one eye? Are you trying to keep the plane of both eyes in better focus? What is the distance from the camera to this desired plane of focus? This distance is critical to establish the tilt angle, which you have not specified. I reference this tutorial; study the table at the end for the TSE 90. The link to the PDF at the end of the article you may find better fromatted to reproducing the tables.
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorial​s/focusing-ts.shtml (external link)

While this tutorial explains use of approximate tilt angle settings for landscape use, this principle also applies as a starting point for any tilt fine adjustments.
The longer focal length of the TSE 90 makes it very sensitive to tilt fine adjustment, and it very rapidly runs out of sufficient tilt as one approaches (reduces the distance to) the desired focal plane. Thus for a real portrait model, the exact angle of the face would be extremely sensitive to head rotation movement and may be difficult to reproducibly hold. Again, it is not clear as to your desired effect.
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Jun 19, 2011 14:37 |  #5

Yeah I am kinda of confused as well as to what you are trying to show. Was the tilt on the horizontal, vertical or diagonal axis? It looks to me like all you did was move the plane of focus from the eyes and mouth to the bridge of her nose. I am new to tilt/shift having only had my TS-E lens for a few months so subtleties are lost on me. Maybe explaining your objective and setups would allow us to make better sense of the photographs you posted.


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Jun 19, 2011 14:39 |  #6

Hi Mike and Rand

The plane of focus is across the eyes and covers the lips (90 degrees vertical).

I posted these without more explanation to see if anybody could see the difference and whether one was preferred over the other.

I agree that it would be difficult to execute in a real world scenario, but it's still fun and interesting to experiment.

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Jun 19, 2011 15:10 |  #7

Thanks for the explaination and I see more clearly now. I have not seen to many t/s portraits that I like mainly due to the fact that people tend to over do the effect especially when a lot of background is showing to where the t/s effect becomes very obvious. In these head shots the look is more subtle and I tend to like the tilted look better in the cropped images but, when viewing them full size its a toss up for me.


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Jun 19, 2011 16:17 |  #8

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As you can see, tilt can be used in subtle ways.

I really liked the use of tilt in the photograph in this link:https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=12471461&po​stcount=38

Once I started working with tilt lenses I found as I was evaluating and framing I started including the ability to adjust the focus plane. It's quit a different mind set.

What camera body are you shooting?

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Jun 20, 2011 02:03 |  #9

windpig wrote in post #12621222 (external link)
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As you can see, tilt can be used in subtle ways.

I really liked the use of tilt in the photograph in this link:https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=12471461&po​stcount=38

Once I started working with tilt lenses I found as I was evaluating and framing I started including the ability to adjust the focus plane. It's quit a different mind set.

What camera body are you shooting?

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I will be using my TS-E 24L II with either my 5DmII or 7D. What little bit I have played with it so far I have found the Live view and 10X zoom indispensible for focusing. I bought my lens back in February when Canon had a rebate and the rumors started flying about their soon to be 10% price hike. It was a good investment but poor timing as I will not be able to really have the time to use it till later this Fall. Until then I am learning all I can and looking at as many example images as I can find.


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