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Jun 21, 2011 09:32 |  #1

In light of the new rule change, will you purchase any new url's and if so how/why will it benefit your business?


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The change allows domain names using any combination of letters and numbers, starting in January 2012

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Jun 21, 2011 09:38 |  #2

But, you have to register the extension you want. It costs $185,000 to do that. You don't get to just do it for free.


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Jun 21, 2011 09:41 |  #3

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But, you have to register the extension you want. It costs $185,000 to do that. You don't get to just do it for free.

WOW, thanks for the info.

I suppose dot facebook and other big business opportunities will do this.


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Jun 21, 2011 10:14 as a reply to  @ tomd's post |  #4

What I don't understand is how they propose to ensure all the new TLD's resolve properly. Is that what the 185K is for - to push out the DNS info?

Also, is there a central news source where you can watch all new TLD's as they are rolled out?


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Jun 21, 2011 11:17 |  #5

The $185,000 is to own that extension. If there is interest by multiple parties in a certain extension, then the ICANN will actually start an auction between the parties. DNS servers will be fully able to resolve any extension that comes out.

And no, as far as I've read, there won't be a central area to know what's coming out. You've just got to pay attention.


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Jun 21, 2011 11:58 |  #6

TheAnt wrote in post #12632291 (external link)
The $185,000 is to own that extension.

Now that is interesting. I didn't know that.

I would assume, then, that means when a new TLD is created, because it is owned, you won't be able to simply jump on godaddy and register a domain. I would assume you would have to be authorized and/or get it from the owner.

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And no, as far as I've read, there won't be a central area to know what's coming out. You've just got to pay attention.

Well, yea... but that's what I'm wondering. Pay attention where? I guess one could create a few google alerts or something.


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Jun 21, 2011 13:05 |  #7

I bet dot XXX goes for much more than $185,000


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Jun 21, 2011 13:34 |  #8

tomd wrote in post #12632941 (external link)
I bet dot XXX goes for much more than $185,000

I was thinkin' it might be more like dot porn.

Can't remember if there is already a xxx tld. Or did that idea fall apart?

Definitely will be an auction for dot photography. Into the millions, maybe?


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Jun 21, 2011 16:11 |  #9

.XXX went through in January. You can get it as an extension. Most porn sites are wary, however, as its really easy to block an entire TLD based on a country's censorship rules.

This whole new TLD venture looks to be extremely lucrative for ICANN. I've been following this on the news. Will get into more discussion when I get home from work.


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Jun 21, 2011 16:12 |  #10

^^^ Isn't ICANN a non-profit organization?


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Jun 21, 2011 16:18 |  #11

tomd wrote in post #12634093 (external link)
^^^ Isn't ICANN a non-profit organization?

The $185,000 is an "Evaluation Fee" and is intended to pay for the time that ICANN will spend researching your request in an attempt to only give the TLD's to the "right" people. Unless you are representing "Coca-Cola, Inc." you can forget about cyber-squatting the .coke TLD.


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Jun 21, 2011 20:00 |  #12

krb wrote in post #12634129 (external link)
The $185,000 is an "Evaluation Fee" and is intended to pay for the time that ICANN will spend researching your request in an attempt to only give the TLD's to the "right" people. Unless you are representing "Coca-Cola, Inc." you can forget about cyber-squatting the .coke TLD.

Exactly. You can't just buy whatever new TLD you want for $185K. It has to be approved. cyber-squatting won't be approved. Likely most typo-squatting won't be approved either (e.g. .facebok).

I also believe there are what individuals would consider too costly infrastructure requirements for serving your new domain.


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Jun 21, 2011 20:12 |  #13

ICANN spent tens of millions of dollars on this project. They don't intend to make money. They want to break even for the amount of efford the organization put in. The project has been in the works since 2006, and they'll be donating $2 million to help developing countries.

The $185,000 gets you the TLD. And then there's a $25,000 a year fee to maintain it. It's set up so whoever owns a TLD will then be able to sell addresses at them, so if someone buys .photo, they'll be able to set the price, from $10-$100, per domain you purchase. Canon, for example, plans on purchasing ".canon" as a TLD. Apple is rumored to purchase ".apple," ".ipad," and ".ipod" once this goes live. It's set up so who owns the TLD's can make a lot of money if they choose to.

It's also set up so anyone can object to a TLD being created if there's a trademark or copyright violation, to prevent squatters, or someone such as Microsoft buying ".apple." The report on this whole thing is 350 pages long.

All of what I've been talking about is public news that you can find on Yahoo or any news site.


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Jun 22, 2011 08:56 |  #14

TheAnt wrote in post #12635418 (external link)
ICANN spent tens of millions of dollars on this project.

They most likely did spend this much of money, but realistically this project is not worth more then few $1000. It doesn't take much time nor money to "invent" another TLD. And all DNS software is perfectly capable of resolving any kind of domain or top level domains, so in reality this is really no huge project.


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Jun 22, 2011 09:58 |  #15

primoz wrote in post #12638278 (external link)
They most likely did spend this much of money, but realistically this project is not worth more then few $1000. It doesn't take much time nor money to "invent" another TLD. And all DNS software is perfectly capable of resolving any kind of domain or top level domains, so in reality this is really no huge project.

Problem #1: Can you say with absolute certainty that every DNS server, router, piece of client software, etc. can support TLDs with more than 3 characters?

Problem #2: You are thinking like an engineer. Think about how much time and effort was spent on the administrative and political side of things. Procedures for requesting a new TLD, procedures for objecting to a new TLD, internal procedures for conducting a proper review of the request, ...


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