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Observing a pro , I got questions.

 
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Jun 28, 2011 13:56 |  #61

nathancarter wrote in post #12671752 (external link)
Regardless of how the OP acted, the paid wedding photographer should have said something like "I'm really sorry, but I need to concentrate on my work right now, and can't really chat while I'm working." Polite, professional, and to the point.

"You wouldn't understand" was unnecessary, presumptuous, and downright rude.

Allstar hockey weekend had a bunch of photo guys working local rink, I ask the guy about his setup, his reply was ''Just setiing up our lighting right now so I can not talk but here is my card , come see me at the a/v room in 2 hours we can talk then" That guy was amazing, showed me his gear and how they shoot and get files in order , emailed me that there is a canon sale and I bought my 70-200 2.8 IS that next week, we still talk every few months he is a real pro!


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Jun 28, 2011 13:57 |  #62

kjonnnn wrote in post #12672097 (external link)
300 Weddings and not familiar with the light meter?

With strobes yes without not so much..


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Jun 28, 2011 13:59 |  #63

shayneyasinski wrote in post #12661181 (external link)
I just don't know why one would need a light meter, or am I a moron??

So she was right and you wouldn't understand.


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Jun 28, 2011 14:07 as a reply to  @ Numenorean's post |  #64

5 pages!!! The OP must have struck a nerve.


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Jun 28, 2011 14:08 |  #65

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5 pages!!! The OP must have struck a nerve.

Its only 2 pages for me ;) If it was 5 on my end then it really struck a nerve :lol:


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Jun 28, 2011 14:40 |  #66

kjonnnn wrote in post #12671995 (external link)
LOL. Would this scenario happen if the photographer was some other professional?

Perhaps.

I'm a pretty accomplished home mechanic. I'd be annoyed if I asked a professional mechanic a question about the torque angle gauge he's using, only to be told that I wouldn't understand. If he said "Can't talk, I'm busy," that's one thing; if he said "you wouldn't understand," he'd be both wrong and rude at the same time.

(actually, he would probably say "what the heck are you doing in my shop, get outta here")


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Jun 29, 2011 02:16 |  #67
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I wonder what was precisely stated in her contract: was she hired to take pictures of the event only, or was she supposed to educate guests as well?
All of them or only the dicks who believe that owning a better gear will make them a better dick?

The OP got the answer he deserves, if you ask me..


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Jul 03, 2011 01:16 |  #68

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I can shoot a wedding with a Digital Rebel just fine actually. Certainly an argument can be made about the fact that she was shooting a D40 but I think that's inconsequential to this discussion and the only reason why it was mentioned was because the OP brought it up to prove a point I suppose.

The reality is we don't know what the situation was. We haven't seen her photos. I don't make judgements based on the gear someone is shooting with. The proof is in the pudding...that is, the photos.

yeah a Rebel with L quality lenses :p
Equipment is indeed very important. You simply not match the results of cheap crap with those produced by pro gear. I am sure I would manage to shoot a wedding with my current gear and still get better results than a so called professional with Rebel and kit lenses. If you shoot RAW some slight under/overexposure in PP :rolleyes:

I think you guys should watch this first:
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=RjBSIvg3pjc (external link)

charging clients thousands of dollars while using equipment worth a few hundred is just pathetic


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Jul 03, 2011 05:46 |  #69

1000 posts and you still think it's all about the gear?


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Jul 03, 2011 06:02 |  #70

1000 posts and you still haven't seen this part of the forum?
https://photography-on-the.net/forum/forumdis​play.php?f=107

and I never said it's all about gear...
if you claim to be a pro you better have some serious gear to match your skills :rolleyes:


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Jul 03, 2011 06:04 |  #71

shayneyasinski wrote in post #12661181 (external link)
Attending a wedding I saw the pro using a light meter,She would have her assistant take a reading and then tell her what f stop to use, I later asked her about it and she said I would not understand and walked away.....

I felt the need at that time to go to my car get my 5D with a 24-70L , 7D with the 70-200 2.8 IS , and shoot a few beside her and her d40,, OK i am a jerk I know, but I asked her nice way befor anyone that needed to be shot was there.

I just don't know why one would need a light meter, or am I a moron??

Maybe your last sentence is the key. She probably assumed that either you did not know much about photography, since you didn't know what a light meter is used for, or you were a moron and why waste her time explaining? Everyone now thinks they are a photog since they own a DSLR and she is probably always getting interrupted with a thousand questions while she is trying to do her job, do you shoot wedding professionally?


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Jul 03, 2011 06:23 |  #72

Of course, it could be said that someone who really knew about photography wouldn't have had to ask the question in the first place!




  
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Jul 03, 2011 17:44 |  #73

Roy Mathers wrote in post #12696738 (external link)
Of course, it could be said that someone who really knew about photography wouldn't have had to ask the question in the first place!

Precisely Roy - I'm surprised this thread has run for so long as it has anyway, as the OP is making a fuss over nothing.

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Jul 03, 2011 17:59 |  #74

Agreed.




  
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Jul 04, 2011 14:29 |  #75

Great stuff. The boys from England have sorted this sorry mess out once and for all.

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