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Did I use the right or wrong lens here?

 
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Jun 26, 2011 17:35 |  #1

Chose to use a 35L for these shots. I don't think the lens was 4" from the flower on both shots. I also have an 85L and a 135L. Would one of those have worked any better?

Personally, I don't see any distortion or anything. I'm just curious the paths others may have taken given the other lenses I had to choose from.

1. Point blank range with a 35L - f/4, 1/640 ISO 100 on tripod

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2. Point blank range 2 with a 35L - f/4, 1/640 ISO 100.

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Critique and suggestions welcome. Thanks again,

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Canon 5D2 > 35L-85L-135L

  
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Jun 26, 2011 17:45 |  #2

when i have the option of shorter vs longer with both lenses having about the same iq and max apperature if handheld i usually go for the shorter one if using natural light because instead of just getting my shutter speed up to 1.6 times the focal length with the long lens and possibly having to crank up iso to do so with the shorter lens i could have my shutter speed at 3-4x the focal length and get sharper shots. exception is if i need crazy bokeh. when i need crazy bokeh and have the light to allow it i go for the fast long lens because i just cant get the bokeh i do at 200mm f/2.8 with my 17-50 2.8

why are you questioning your choice?

personaly i probably would have went with the 85 just because there was enough light for a high enough shutter speed (plus you used a tripod, i rarely do) and i like a little distance, i find if i try to get too close while looking through the view finder i sway front and back a little and miss focus some times.\

this is just me though and altho there may be some scientific reasoning that i dont yet know about or understand i think its a subjective thing and depends on personal style and individual lens preferences (we all have favorites)


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Jun 26, 2011 18:05 |  #3

For the first one, I think I would have cropped it closer for that DOF. The second one is just right. The DOF for the subject is just right, and the background has just the right amount of blur. IMO


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Jun 26, 2011 18:22 as a reply to  @ TGrundvig's post |  #4

I like to use my 100/400 with extension tubes. When using it, you can get some nice blur backgrounds. I have had great luck with it.

Taken with 7D 100/400 and extension tube.

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Jun 26, 2011 21:35 |  #5

Outlaw: Thanks. Your post makes a lot of sense. I tried the 85mm ... minimum focus distance of that lens made for shooting farther away than the 35mm offered. Pretty sure based on my lenses, I made the right choice.

TG: thanks for your comments as well. I need to think more about DOF before I shoot!

Steve: Thanks for your example. Sometimes I'm slagged for not shooting my "L" lenses more wide open. f/8 nailed your shot. Good work. I'll try that when more day lilies come out in the coming days.

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Jun 26, 2011 21:36 |  #6

As an update: Tried shooting the same flower with the 85L. Minimum focus distance too far to fill the frame. Pretty sure the 35mm is the best tool in the box for this type of work.

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Jun 26, 2011 22:23 |  #7

snyderman wrote in post #12662531 (external link)
As an update: Tried shooting the same flower with the 85L. Minimum focus distance too far to fill the frame. Pretty sure the 35mm is the best tool in the box for this type of work.

dave

With that camera you should be able to crop in to fill the frame. ;)


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Jun 27, 2011 09:33 |  #8

I'm not sure I agree. If your MFD is too far get an extension tube(s). Using longer fl your going to get much tighter/better angle of view/perspective. Which leads me to my first point: on your second photo the huge white area in the upper left is distracting.

Gotta go with fellow Nebraskan, SteveJa, here that I like a telephoto and an extension tube. Great image, Steve.

This is with 100mm /f/2 and 12 mm extension tubes.


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This, I think was with a 24-105 which of course is not macro but pretty close focus. It was at about 100mm.

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The other thing is I really like using a softbox and darkening up the backgrounds.

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Jun 27, 2011 11:14 |  #9

I like the wide angle approach to flower photography, the only downside is the inclusion of the distracting highlights. A set of tubes would help with a longer lens's mfd but a good set can cost up to a third of the ef 100mm macro lens which makes the buying decision far from clear cut.


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