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Anyone calibrated an LED display with a Spyder 2 ?

 
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Jun 27, 2011 13:59 |  #1

I know the Spyder is not made for calibrating a wide gamut display like an LED, I'm just asking if anyone has tried and what the results were when compared with a print.


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Jun 27, 2011 21:01 |  #2

Yeah, I used my Spyder3 Pro to calibrate my new 27 inch iMac with an LED screen. It took a couple tries with different calibration settings, but I finally got it all set.

One issue I faced was that the LED screen is very bright. When calibrating, set the brighness one or two clicks below the center setting. This increased brightness tends to make prints appear darker on photo paper. The only workaround I've found is to basically increase the brightness of the print when printing. I use about 10-15% extra brightness when printing to match the brightness of the screen view.


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Jun 27, 2011 21:21 |  #3

Glad I'm not the only one. Wish there was a good way to correct for this.




  
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Jun 27, 2011 21:31 as a reply to  @ ender78's post |  #4

I use the spyder to do my 24" LED and have no problem with screen and printing matching on my Canon printer. My HP requires .33 of exposure added.


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Jun 27, 2011 22:25 |  #5

Huntersdad, Can you confirm which Spyder and version of software you're using.




  
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Jun 28, 2011 01:57 |  #6

this may not be much help, but I got this reply from datacolor so it may not be a good calibration

"Furthermore, this 2nd generation sensor has been construced more than 5 years ago and is therefore no longer compatible with latest display technologies, such as LED-Backlight, Wide-Gammut and screens with a glossy surface."


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Jun 28, 2011 07:04 |  #7

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I was getting dark prints even with my older LCD as much as four years ago. I have owned and used the Spyder 2 Express during that whole time and I have yet to get prints at home that match the brightness of the screen, whether LCD or LED.

However....I can't deny the screen itself looks WAY more accurate color-wise regardless of the prints. But since accurate prints the main reason why you calibrate.....I guess overall I'm not impressed with the Spyder.

Last night I went ahead and calibrated my new LED monitor anyway and once again the screen looks way more accurate than before. My next step is to send some prints to a local printer (I'm done messing around with desktop printers) and do a comparison.


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Jun 28, 2011 07:18 |  #8

Screens come setup from the factory with the brightness set to bleeding eye bright. If your monitor is calibrated for color and your print workflow is not screwed up and your prints are darker than your screen it is because your screen is set too bright. It isn't more complicated than that.


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Jun 28, 2011 09:16 |  #9

bohdank wrote in post #12670044 (external link)
Screens come setup from the factory with the brightness set to bleeding eye bright. If your monitor is calibrated for color and your print workflow is not screwed up and your prints are darker than your screen it is because your screen is set too bright. It isn't more complicated than that.

This was my problem, as I alluded to above. After calibrating with the Sypder, the colors are accurate... it's just that the prints are a bit darker than what is shown on the screen because the screen is so bright. Boosting brightness in the printer settings helps alleviate this.


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Jun 28, 2011 12:12 |  #10

Lower the screen brightness.


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Jun 28, 2011 12:20 |  #11

bohdank wrote in post #12671508 (external link)
Lower the screen brightness.

should the spyder not callibrate the screen brightness too?
I use an i1 display 2 and it definitely adjusts the brightness to the correct candela reading

Thanks everyone for the feedback. I was getting dark prints even with my older LCD as much as four years ago. I have owned and used the Spyder 2 Express during that whole time and I have yet to get prints at home that match the brightness of the screen, whether LCD or LED.

However....I can't deny the screen itself looks WAY more accurate color-wise regardless of the prints. But since accurate prints the main reason why you calibrate.....I guess overall I'm not impressed with the Spyder.

Last night I went ahead and calibrated my new LED monitor anyway and once again the screen looks way more accurate than before. My next step is to send some prints to a local printer (I'm done messing around with desktop printers) and do a comparison.

are you sure the problem isn't with the calibration of your printer? Are you using the proper ICC profiles for your paper and ink (tip, always use genuine inks and paper for easier colour matching), I used to have dark prints- I tried all the paper profiles and nothing would change the 'brightness', but changing paper suddenly made everything soo much easier to colour manage as the printer profile for the paper was perfect and matched my calibrated display and colour swatches.


Here's another tip- you need a reference colour sheet to compare against, something like a pantone colour strip- it's no good to say something looks 'more accurate', more accurate compared to what exactly??
Printer profiling is an absolute nightmare compared to calibrating a monitor- I got lucky with my printer, maybe it won't be so easy for you- what printer are you using?


The lighting conditions of the room you're in will effect the colour cast of your prints, view them in daylight or full spectrum 5500k lights for maximum accuracy- you'd be surprised at how wrong things can look in different light set ups

How important is your colour matching? How deep do you want to go?
My advice to you is that it's not worth the hassle of home printing- use a photo lab (and get their ICC profiles to do soft proofing before you send)




  
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Jun 28, 2011 13:10 |  #12

mrjames wrote in post #12671555 (external link)
should the spyder not callibrate the screen brightness too?
I use an i1 display 2 and it definitely adjusts the brightness to the correct candela reading


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Only the Elite version of the software. The Pro etc. can tell you what it is set to but it's up to you to change it manually on the monitor and continue the calibration.


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