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Jun 27, 2011 15:55 |  #1

I'm looking now to get a 230v VBM from PCB, I'm astounded at the difference in price for what is essentially exactly the same unit.

In the US it costs $240=£149
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In the EU is costs $495=£310
http://paulcbuff.eu.co​m …se&category_id=​9&Itemid=1 (external link)

More than double the price if I buy in the EU.

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Jun 27, 2011 15:59 |  #2

maybe supply and demand ??? shipping & customs headaches & costs??? not really sure...


I know, right? I'm just sayin'...

  
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Jun 27, 2011 16:01 |  #3

Doesn't everybody hate Europeans??


Probably has something to do with what it takes to make a unit 220/240v as opposed to 115/120v. Electrical stuff when going from "American" to "European" has to be tricky.


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Jun 27, 2011 16:01 |  #4

Shipping, and a local distributor add to the cost, plus the fluctuating power of US currency comes into play.




  
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Jun 27, 2011 17:18 |  #5

mininut wrote in post #12666589 (external link)
More than double the price if I buy in the EU.

This comes up pretty often.
In the US, they're direct sales...i.e., no middleman.
In the EU, you have a distributor (50% of cost)....this is Business 101...ask one of your business major friends.
In the EU, you have import duties :)
In the EU, you have more taxes than we do in the US :)

Add all that up, and you're probably looking at close to double the cost...


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Jun 27, 2011 17:22 |  #6

kenyee wrote in post #12667022 (external link)
This comes up pretty often.
In the US, they're direct sales...i.e., no middleman.
In the EU, you have a distributor (50% of cost)....this is Business 101...ask one of your business major friends.
In the EU, you have import duties :)
In the EU, you have more taxes than we do in the US :)

Add all that up, and you're probably looking at close to double the cost...

This exactly!

More taxes and middleman equal much higher fees.


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Jun 27, 2011 19:22 |  #7

More taxes.......This exactly!

To the OP, what is your sales tax, VAT and import duty ? State those as percentage, then it will be easier for us to give an idea of where the added money goes.

By comparison, when I buy a vag mini here, I would pay $240 for the VBM plus $10.64 to UPS ( 7.44 euro ) to have it shipped directly to my home. There would be no other added charges.


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Jun 27, 2011 20:14 |  #8

Why not just buy European brands? You got Elinchrom back there.


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Jun 27, 2011 20:46 |  #9

airshaq20: We do, but they don't really compare. The price of the modifiers, no VML, no plm equivalent and most importantly: no competitor for the einstein. At least until they get their act togheter regarding flash durations.


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Jun 27, 2011 21:05 |  #10

Davidoff wrote in post #12668086 (external link)
airshaq20: We do, but they don't really compare. The price of the modifiers, no VML, no plm equivalent and most importantly: no competitor for the einstein. At least until they get their act togheter regarding flash durations.

I got both brands. I have not used the Einstein for sports or anything that can use its full potential. Just get a friend or a relative buy one for you and have it shipped back to you.


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Jun 27, 2011 21:08 |  #11

Thread title is childish.




  
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Jun 27, 2011 21:18 |  #12

Savas K wrote in post #12668167 (external link)
Thread title is childish.

agreed other than kenyee airshaq and Georges' post.

Davidoff the OP is complaining about the price, how can you say the price is too much on Elinchrom :lol: On top of that PCB does not have an indirect octa bank, deep octa ect ect.


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Jun 28, 2011 02:36 as a reply to  @ sigma pi's post |  #13

I meant it was more expensive if you take as standard the U.S. prices.


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Jun 28, 2011 03:30 |  #14

Savas K wrote in post #12668167 (external link)
Thread title is childish.

Think of it more as an attention grabbing title to encourage responses rather than a statement of fact.

Seems the best way to get this stuff is to have it bought in the US then shipped to the UK - be sure to look at import duty though.


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Jun 28, 2011 03:30 as a reply to  @ Davidoff's post |  #15

george m w wrote in post #12667641 (external link)
To the OP, what is your sales tax, VAT and import duty ? State those as percentage, then it will be easier for us to give an idea of where the added money goes.

By comparison, when I buy a vag mini here, I would pay $240 for the VBM plus $10.64 to UPS ( 7.44 euro ) to have it shipped directly to my home. There would be no other added charges.

The landed cost to the Uk including shipping and taxes/vat is still only £220+30 and thats for a single item, i assume there would be savings for bulk import. An additional £60 for posting the unit to my door is still alot. The US price will include local taxes i would think too.

Savas K wrote in post #12668167 (external link)
Thread title is childish.

Apologies if you think the title is childish, i haven't done anything childish in a very long time :D

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