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Jul 10, 2011 14:23 |  #1

I have recently been contacted to to advertising pictures for a local business. They have recently renovated and want to lease out individual shops to create an Automotive Mall. I was asked to do individual shots of the suites, the exterior at multiple angles, offices,as well as garage space available for services. The only problem is I have never done anything like this and have no idea how to quote the service. Please help.. I dont even know where to start.
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Jul 10, 2011 15:10 |  #2

Commercial photography can be rewarding so you want to make sure that you do a good job. I've turned down jobs that I didn't feel we could do and if you are honest with them many of them will give you a shot later when you feel you are ready.

There is a standard set of information that I must have before taking on the a commercial job. The most important is what is the end use which will drive licensing. The shooting part is easy to quote, it is either our daily rate or hourly rate if it is only a part day. Things like transportation, per diems, etc. all get added in. I have an excel spreadsheet that I use to calculate all of this. Did they give you a budget to work to, many will do that.

Quite honestly, if you don't know where to start on a project like this then maybe it would be time to turn it down until you feel like you are ready. The other option would be to contact someone that you know to help you with the shoot that has experience in doing commercial work. Was the contact from an agency or from the facility owner. If it is from an agency they are usually very specific in what they want and any advertising agency I have worked with will normally send along an art director to the shoot to ensure that they are getting what they want. Even if it is the owner of the facility it is their responsibility to give you clear directions on what they want and your responsibility to make sure you get it from them. I've done shoots for customers who give us a clean sheet of paper with no definitive directions. In this case we have them sign a letter of understanding that they have not provided direction and therefore anything that we supply has to be acceptable. Views, portrait or landscape, room for type to be set in a particular area, file size, color space and even file type are the questions you should have answered from the customer.

Is your 430 going to be enough light to get the job done. If I have to rent special equipment this gets added in subject to their concurrence but they also have an expectation that we will have the basic gear to get the job done. Only once have I had to rent additional lighting. Unless you have really small rooms, your 17-40 should cover it. Depending on the scene we will set the camera position and then do lighting changes across several images so that each component, lets say each wall for example, are lit properly and then we merge these together in Photoshop to get the best results. It is not HDR, though I know some that use this approach, but simply cutting and pasting all the pieces to get one good one. With any luck they would have a skylight so that you can use natural lighting which is always nice.

You must have an idea of what your time is worth and then add in any licensing and usage charges and you should be there. Of course you would have source yourself a licensing agreement for their signatures.


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Jul 10, 2011 15:32 |  #3

Thank you for your reply. I know the owners personally so that is part of my predicament. I have many shoots under my belt and im not afraid of the said task just have never quoted anything in this field. I have to produce images that they can use to rent out all the available space as well as present to the founding Company as proof of progress and renovations. They will be using these in the local newspaper as well as through internet and other media as needed..




  
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Jul 10, 2011 17:36 |  #4

As has been said, the formula is :

Time + Expenses + Licensing

The difficulty is always in the licensing if the customer is not experienced in buying photography.

You have to explain that even though they have paid for your time and expenses they do not own the images and indeed if that is all they pay for they won't even get posession the images - so effectively they have paid you $$$'s and recieved nothing.

BTW - how do you usually charge for your services?


  
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Jul 10, 2011 21:07 |  #5

Here are some videos you can use. ASMP has the largest number of commercial photographers of any of the photo trade organizations.

http://www.asmp.org …lybusiness/vide​o-library/ (external link)


Park Street - It Really Is My Name!
http://www.parkstreetp​hotography.com (external link)

  
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