Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos RAW, Post Processing & Printing 
Thread started 16 Jul 2011 (Saturday) 16:43
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

LR3 automatically neutralizes and desaturates the color on all photos

 
j-dogg
Goldmember
1,292 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Apr 2011
     
Jul 16, 2011 16:43 |  #1

At first it only did it while i select a photo in loupe mode now if I turn the saturation all the way up to 100 and export I still get this.

IMAGE: http://www.guvmentcheese.com/jd0gg/photos/1137l-0516.jpg

This was shot with a 24-105/4 with a polarizer, that sky is supposed to be as blue as the locomotive. The red freight car is supposed to be Ferrari red. What the hell happened? Everything looks bland

5D / 400d / 70-200-4LIS / 50 Mk.I / 28-70
RB67 Pro-S / 50-90-180 Holy Trinity, 120/polaroid back
Graphic View I 4x5 / Schneider 180 / Meyer 135 / Ektar 127

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tzalman
Fatal attraction.
Avatar
13,497 posts
Likes: 213
Joined Apr 2005
Location: Gesher Haziv, Israel
     
Jul 16, 2011 19:08 |  #2

What the hell happened? Everything looks bland

Well, one thing that happened is that you exported to ProPhoto RGB space. That's ok if your monitor is calibrated and if you use Firefox or Safari. It will also be sort of ok if you use IE9 and have a narrow gamut (sRGB) monitor. Since in this case you are looking for high saturation, you might even be happy with IE9 and a wide gamut monitor. But with IE8 or earlier, Chrome or Opera, bland is what you'll get.


Elie / אלי

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tonylong
...winded
Avatar
54,657 posts
Gallery: 60 photos
Likes: 571
Joined Sep 2007
Location: Vancouver, WA USA
     
Jul 16, 2011 20:30 |  #3

Interesting -- I'm on a cheap laptop and using IE8 and it doesn't look bland/neutralized/desa​turated to me, but I don't know what your "intended" look would be.

Try converting to sRGB and posting here so we can compare. And, if your Lightroom display of it shows it the way you want it, maybe a screenshot of it open in LR would help.


Tony
Two Canon cameras (5DC, 30D), three Canon lenses (24-105, 100-400, 100mm macro)
Tony Long Photos on PBase (external link)
Wildlife project pics here (external link), Biking Photog shoots here (external link), "Suburbia" project here (external link)! Mount St. Helens, Mount Hood pics here (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PaulRivers
Member
193 posts
Joined Sep 2010
     
Jul 16, 2011 21:05 |  #4

j-dogg wrote in post #12769883 (external link)
At first it only did it while i select a photo in loupe mode now if I turn the saturation all the way up to 100 and export I still get this.

This was shot with a 24-105/4 with a polarizer, that sky is supposed to be as blue as the locomotive. The red freight car is supposed to be Ferrari red. What the hell happened? Everything looks bland

I don't know what your problem is, but that picture looks obviously oversaturated on my screen. I'm viewing it in Firefox on an HP Elitebook with "Dreamcolor" display.

Seriously, I thought there was a before and after photo but you didn't post the unsaturated version.

EDIT: I wrote this coming from a reference point of the OP's assertion that it was bland and undersaturated. When I reread what I wrote it sounds more over the top that I had meant. I just meant it was totally obviously saturated and colorful - like "Ferrari red" like the OP mentioned. What I wrote was "obviously oversaturated", but I had meant to write was "obviously, definitely colorful and saturated". In my opinion it look like it's had the saturation slider turned up for effect, but not horribly so or something.

Anyways - the problem seems to be that the OP looked at the original picture and it's horribly bland and not saturated on his/her machine, right?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
FlyingPhotog
Cream of the "Prop"
Avatar
57,560 posts
Likes: 178
Joined May 2007
Location: Probably Chasing Aircraft
     
Jul 16, 2011 21:07 |  #5

iPad viewing here and I think this looks very natural.


Jay
Crosswind Images (external link)
Facebook Fan Page (external link)

"If you aren't getting extraordinary images from today's dSLRs, regardless of brand, it's not the camera!" - Bill Fortney, Nikon Corp.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
amonline
Goldmember
Avatar
3,558 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Jul 2006
     
Jul 16, 2011 22:33 |  #6

Agree on the PP embed. The PS thumb shows what you wanted: http://regex.info …2Fphotos%2F1137​l-0516.jpg (external link)

Export for the web in sRGB and you'll be fine. ;)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
René ­ Damkot
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
39,856 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Feb 2005
Location: enschede, netherlands
     
Jul 17, 2011 07:27 |  #7

Yep. ProPhotoRGB embedded.
Looks very much oversaturated in FireFox.

I think this is the link Amonline tried to post ;)

http://regex.info …2Fphotos%2F1137​l-0516.jpg (external link)


"I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
Why Color Management.
Color Problems? Click here.
MySpace (external link)
Get Colormanaged (external link)
Twitter (external link)
PERSONAL MESSAGING REGARDING SELLING OR BUYING ITEMS WITH MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO POSTS IN FORUMS AND/OR WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM FORUMS IS HEREBY DECLARED STRICTLY STUPID AND YOU WILL GET BURNED.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
j-dogg
THREAD ­ STARTER
Goldmember
1,292 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Apr 2011
     
Jul 17, 2011 13:26 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #8

Well ****, that explains a few things. Learn something new everyday. I intentionally turned the saturation waayyy up on that photo to demonstrate my issue.

I'm about to do a batch from a gig last night we'll see how those turn out.

I get this same issue in IrfanView I'll see if it gets fixed there too.


5D / 400d / 70-200-4LIS / 50 Mk.I / 28-70
RB67 Pro-S / 50-90-180 Holy Trinity, 120/polaroid back
Graphic View I 4x5 / Schneider 180 / Meyer 135 / Ektar 127

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
René ­ Damkot
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
39,856 posts
Likes: 8
Joined Feb 2005
Location: enschede, netherlands
     
Jul 17, 2011 15:53 |  #9

The image *should* look highly saturated in LR. If it doesn't, something is wrong.
If it does: What LR shows is correct.


"I think the idea of art kills creativity" - Douglas Adams
Why Color Management.
Color Problems? Click here.
MySpace (external link)
Get Colormanaged (external link)
Twitter (external link)
PERSONAL MESSAGING REGARDING SELLING OR BUYING ITEMS WITH MEMBERS WHO HAVE NO POSTS IN FORUMS AND/OR WHO YOU DO NOT KNOW FROM FORUMS IS HEREBY DECLARED STRICTLY STUPID AND YOU WILL GET BURNED.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
PaulRivers
Member
193 posts
Joined Sep 2010
     
Jul 18, 2011 11:53 |  #10

lol, yeah, I just tried opening the picture up in IE6 whereas my posts regard looking at it in Firefox - *totally* different colors...in Firefox the red is Ferrari red, totally. In ie6 it's like a brown.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Snydremark
my very own Lightrules moment
20,051 posts
Gallery: 66 photos
Likes: 5573
Joined Mar 2009
Location: Issaquah, WA USA
     
Jul 18, 2011 12:14 |  #11

Yeah, I'm with Paul. Looks great in FF, but is killed in IE. Which corresponds with the earlier posts that you've got the wrong profile embedded. Follow Rene's comments and you should get it sorted just fine.


- Eric S.: My Birds/Wildlife (external link) (R5, RF 800 f/11, Canon 16-35 F/4 MkII, Canon 24-105L f/4 IS, Canon 70-200L f/2.8 IS MkII, Canon 100-400L f/4.5-5.6 IS I/II)
"The easiest way to improve your photos is to adjust the loose nut between the shutter release and the ground."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,463 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4552
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
     
Jul 18, 2011 12:27 |  #12

Looking on my home desktop, the OP shot looks like a highly saturated shot taken on the well-liked color transparency film (for its saturated colors!) Velvia 50. (The sky is definitely over saturated even by Velvia standards!)


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,529 views & 0 likes for this thread, 9 members have posted to it.
LR3 automatically neutralizes and desaturates the color on all photos
FORUMS Post Processing, Marketing & Presenting Photos RAW, Post Processing & Printing 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1686 guests, 141 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.