blinking8s Goldmember  1,618 posts Joined Jun 2004 Location: w.kentucky More info | Croasdail wrote: A 20D. On a 10D I will go ISO 800 max and underexpose by 1 stop. I would love to see what is possible with a 5D. ah, but how useless is that zoom without 1.6x blinking8s.com
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BlueDeuce "I don't say anything witty"  3,752 posts Likes: 60 Joined Feb 2005 Location: Cent. Fl. More info | Your sense of timing was right on. Nice job.
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Mike_M Hatchling  9 posts Joined Oct 2005 Location: Holland, Michigan More info | Oct 23, 2005 19:00 | #18 I am very impressed!. I've been taking football pictures for the first time and have struggled with the dark. Mine don't look anything like this. Unfortunately, I don't have a fast telephoto lens so I have struggled between blurry and dark (or both). Are you using AF for these shots and what lens did you use? Mike
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ACDCROCKS 321 123 33  2,931 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2005 Location: in your attic More info | Mike_M wrote: I am very impressed!. I've been taking football pictures for the first time and have struggled with the dark. Mine don't look anything like this. Unfortunately, I don't have a fast telephoto lens so I have struggled between blurry and dark (or both). Are you using AF for these shots and what lens did you use? If you using AF, just keep pressing sown half way randomly to stay infocus, that's all. If you are shooting sports I would use a 50MM 1.8 while (if you wanted to) save up for the 70-200MM 2.8 or a 580 ex flash. canon weight
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Oct 24, 2005 08:12 | #20 Mike - an f2.8 lens really is required to do this stuff with any chance of success. There are a bunch of good ones available. Like ACDC says, a 70-200 is really the minimum lens. There are a bunch of options out there.
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Mike_M Hatchling 9 posts Joined Oct 2005 Location: Holland, Michigan More info | Thanks. The season's done for this year so I have a year to gear up. Mike
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waldograce Goldmember 1,680 posts Likes: 1 Joined Oct 2005 Location: Bristol, VA More info | Oct 25, 2005 01:26 | #22 Croasdail wrote: I see a lot of threads about using flash at high school football games, and while it can be helpful, IMHO it is necesary and can also very limiting too .... maybe I am just way to old school. With today's camera and a little application of old film stategies, you can still get some decent shots. Almost all of these were shot at 1/400 @ f2.8. I would adjust the ISO as needed when field lighting conditions made it necessary (thanks for the tip Gavin), and would also go under exposed by up to a stop to keep minimum shutter speed above 1/320. 1/400 is still a tad slow... but hey, it is what it is. Here are a few shots from last weeks game. Go out and have some fun shooting football tonight! I have to agree.
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Keiffer Goldmember  2,259 posts Joined May 2005 Location: Orlando Fl. More info | Oct 25, 2005 08:56 | #23 Nice shots and boy do I hate shooting night games, I defintely need faster glass.
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MazerRakhm Colonel Mustard  2,277 posts Likes: 3 Joined May 2004 Location: Near Chicago, IL More info | Oct 25, 2005 13:24 | #24 Man, those are some great shots! Thanks for looking!
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Oct 26, 2005 06:56 | #25 waldo - agree with ya on the flash thing, but it is a skill I am going to have to learn as I am sure someday I will need to rely on it... I just fall back on what has worked for me in the past. Most editors in our area want or require flashed shots.... oh well.
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gmen Goldmember  4,345 posts Joined Aug 2004 Location: Essex More info | Croasdail wrote: Most editors in our area want or require flashed shots.... oh well. Why? TGSPhoto Editorial Sports Photography
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Oct 26, 2005 07:53 | #27 Here is my understanding... on a given friday night in "football" season, there are about 20-30 football games going on inside their readership area, and their own guys can't cover the all - so they accept images from freelances to images of the games they can't get to. Given the deadlines, and the amount of material, and the marginal quality of a some of the non-flashed shots, they have set a minimum bar so they can quickly weed out the none-printable shots. Dark images + newsprint is not a good combination.
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gmen Goldmember 4,345 posts Joined Aug 2004 Location: Essex More info | Croasdail wrote: Here is my understanding... on a given friday night in "football" season, there are about 20-30 football games going on inside their readership area, and their own guys can't cover the all - so they accept images from freelances to images of the games they can't get to. Given the deadlines, and the amount of material, and the marginal quality of a some of the non-flashed shots, they have set a minimum bar so they can quickly weed out the none-printable shots. Dark images + newsprint is not a good combination. Some of us older dudes know how to squeze out some low light stuff because we had to... but realistically if I decided to contribute regularly I would need to take a few safe shots with flash to cover my posteriour. I suck at action flash photography... hence why I have been sucking you guys dry for knowledge in this area. Ahhhh... that makes sense. TGSPhoto Editorial Sports Photography
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AjP Senior Member  813 posts Likes: 1 Joined Jun 2005 Location: DFW, US More info | well, I hate using flash in sport photography... but hey.. sometimes it's so freaking dark and 3200 is not an option.. if you shooting for yourself.. may be 1/320 is fine.. but editors want to see decent pics with faces, eyes... so doesn't matter if I like or don't.. I care flash with me, cause I never know what light condition going to be on HS field.. if I can shooting without flash - awesome... but if I need to use flash at end zone..oh well, I'll "Photography takes an instant out of time, altering life by holding it still."
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ACDCROCKS 321 123 33 2,931 posts Likes: 1 Joined Sep 2005 Location: in your attic More info | Croasdail wrote: Here is my understanding... on a given friday night in "football" season, there are about 20-30 football games going on inside their readership area, and their own guys can't cover the all - so they accept images from freelances to images of the games they can't get to. Given the deadlines, and the amount of material, and the marginal quality of a some of the non-flashed shots, they have set a minimum bar so they can quickly weed out the none-printable shots. Dark images + newsprint is not a good combination. Some of us older dudes know how to squeze out some low light stuff because we had to... but realistically if I decided to contribute regularly I would need to take a few safe shots with flash to cover my posteriour. I suck at action flash photography... hence why I have been sucking you guys dry for knowledge in this area. Hmm. that makes sense, do they pay you for the pics that you turn in? canon weight
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