When we get some new Canon Bodies...

... will we finally see the last of the 7D Vs. 5DII threads?

I mean I know we will be forced to wade through another few thousand threads comparing the new bodies, but here it is all this time gone by and daily we still see 7D Vs. 5D II threads.

It's the only head to head in history that seems to totally eclipse the Canon created when they launched the 24-15mm f/4L IS !!!

No, then the 5DMIV threads will start. I should start one now, I'm tired of these MIII threads.

With regards to comparing...I feel they shouldnt be compared since they compliment each other. One being APS-C and the other a Full Framer...One is an apple and the other a orange and everyone knows you cant compare apples to oranges... Jusy my opinion

Well life's a material sport, and people like to debate what material is "best". That there can never be any "best" since all depends on the needs, is of course totally irrelevant.

You either have item A in which case it just have to better than item B.
Or you have item A and are seriously unhappy since you don't happen to have item B.
Or you have neiter A nor B and want everyone who have them to describe just for you which of them is best.
Or you have both of them, in which case the goal is to get everyone else to have both since any single one of them will be just so lacking.

This is one of the disadvantages with Internet. 20 years ago, people just had to go out and use their equipment. Now they can spend just as much - or more - time debating their current or future (or past) gear instead of making use of it.

In a real world, we either have to settle for what little we have. Or we have to settle for what we can carry with us. But in a digital world, we can spend any amount of time reading reviews and getting the optical set of gear to fill our shelves or camera bags.

but is that such a bad thing? Sure the pixel peepers and measurebaters can be annoying at times, but they do provide useful information in alot of cases. While I'd rather get out and shoot, as a person with an engineering background, I find their commentary interesting at times especially when backed up with solid technical information that I would not be bothered to track down for myself.

Every sport has it's armchair quarterbacks, so why should photography be any different? They probably enjoy photography just as much or more than some of the regular shooters, just in a different way. For the record, I'm very curious to see how to 7DII stacks up against the 5DIII...lol!!!

Stone 13 wrote in post #12819245
.... Sure the pixel peepers and measurebaters can be annoying at times, but they do provide useful information ....

... and lot's of entertainment value!

Stone 13 wrote in post #12819245
but is that such a bad thing? Sure the pixel peepers and measurebaters can be annoying at times, but they do provide useful information in alot of cases. While I'd rather get out and shoot, as a person with an engineering background, I find their commentary interesting at times especially when backed up with solid technical information that I would not be bothered to track down for myself.

Every sport has it's armchair quarterbacks, so why should photography be any different? They probably enjoy photography just as much or more than some of the regular shooters, just in a different way. For the record, I'm very curious to see how to 7DII stacks up against the 5DIII...lol!!!

Yes, there is always nice with good, solid, facts when making a decision. So good reviews, including facts about resolution, focus speeds, ... is great.

But the interesting thing is how people spend significant time either trying to convince the rest of the world that their equipment is the best. Or the worst. People don't take the facts from the reviews and makes a decision suitable for themselves but instead starts religious warfare about different equipment.

Let's take the 7D or the 5D Mk II. From the technical threads, we have all the necessary information to decide if we want one or both of these. But people then try to convince everyone else that they need to buy (or must not buy) one or the other or both cameras. Why so much bother what other people think - or what other people should/must [not] own? It is almost as if my enjoyment of my gear would be directly related to what other people think about it - or how many others who happen to own similar gear.

Instead of competing about the best duck shot, people try to compete about what camera and lens and filter and ... that is the best for shooting a duck.

At the same time, people who own specific gear gets very protective if a technical thread debates a measurable problem with that gear. Suddenly, our gear almost becomes our children, and any critique (noise, lag, patterning, ...) must be ridiculed since such a thread is directly seen as a threat to the own person. It's almost as our camera gear are our personality - who we are - instead of the tools we make use of.

Great, it seems I started a 7D Vs. 5D MkII Thread!!!!!!!!!!

Nikon is possibly going to have 2 new bodies in August so I think we'll something late this year.

http://nikonrumors.com …te-august-22nd-23rd.aspx/

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #12820079
Great, it seems I started a 7D Vs. 5D MkII Thread!!!!!!!!!!

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #12820079
Great, it seems I started a 7D Vs. 5D MkII Thread!!!!!!!!!!

We needed another one of those...

1000arms wrote in post #12820095
No, you didn't, but some people have turned it into one.

No. More a "don't see your camera as a family member that you needs to defend at all costs".

pwm2 wrote in post #12819640
Yes, there is always nice with good, solid, facts when making a decision. So good reviews, including facts about resolution, focus speeds, ... is great.

But the interesting thing is how people spend significant time either trying to convince the rest of the world that their equipment is the best. Or the worst. People don't take the facts from the reviews and makes a decision suitable for themselves but instead starts religious warfare about different equipment.

Let's take the 7D or the 5D Mk II. From the technical threads, we have all the necessary information to decide if we want one or both of these. But people then try to convince everyone else that they need to buy (or must not buy) one or the other or both cameras. Why so much bother what other people think - or what other people should/must [not] own? It is almost as if my enjoyment of my gear would be directly related to what other people think about it - or how many others who happen to own similar gear.

Instead of competing about the best duck shot, people try to compete about what camera and lens and filter and ... that is the best for shooting a duck.

At the same time, people who own specific gear gets very protective if a technical thread debates a measurable problem with that gear. Suddenly, our gear almost becomes our children, and any critique (noise, lag, patterning, ...) must be ridiculed since such a thread is directly seen as a threat to the own person. It's almost as our camera gear are our personality - who we are - instead of the tools we make use of.

I agree, most technical discussions degrade very quickly and very good information is easily diluted with post after post of childish bickering by "adults". Unfortunately, and let me see if I can express this thought clearly, when it comes to the more technical aspects of our chosen profession or hobby the playing field is level as you are not required to own a single piece of equipment to be well versed in noise characteristics, ISO sensitivity, dynamic range etc. IMO the subject matter invites these kinds of arguments as sufficient time with google allows anyone to sound like an expert. Then add the normal 30-40% of posts that are strictly opinion and you have a 20 page thread with a very high noise ratio. On the other hand a C&C thread or a thread on how one might properly PP a given image might get 10 replies on a good day, I guess I'm saying you have to take the good with the bad as the good can at times be very good....

Don't forget the inevitable 7D Mk II vs 5D Mk III which are bound to pop up once both are released.

But to me that's like comparing apples to oranges.

Instead the "vs" battle should be waged amongst more equal competition...5D Mk III vs 1Ds Mk IV??

"Let's get ready to rummmmmmbbllllleeee!!!​"

A thread complaining about threads comparing the 7D and 5DII and I read and posted to it. Pathetic. Since CyberDyneSystems is a moderator maybe he could make a subforum with just 7D and 5DII comparisons and tell me a way i can omit the threads in that subforum from my searches.

Guys guys, we all know the 3D is coming out before any more 5/7D's