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Is it possible to capture the milky way on 8/12/11?

 
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Jul 28, 2011 10:44 |  #1

I am going to attempt to capture the Milky Way on 8/12/11. The location is 1 1/2 hours from Seattle so hopefully light pollution is not going to be a problem. My only concern is that the moon is going to be full that night. Is that going to be a problem?


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Jul 28, 2011 11:57 |  #2

vinunleaded wrote in post #12837452 (external link)
I am going to attempt to capture the Milky Way on 8/12/11. The location is 1 1/2 hours from Seattle so hopefully light pollution is not going to be a problem. My only concern is that the moon is going to be full that night. Is that going to be a problem?

iPad app (Star Walk) shows for Seatle area the Moon won't rise till after 10:30pm yet the sun won't set till around 11:30pm


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Jul 28, 2011 12:09 |  #3

If the moon IS full, which by the middle of the month it is getting there, the moon MAY cause you some trouble trying to get som good shots of the fainter stars. go for it anyhow, and good luck! Post your results.......

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Jul 28, 2011 12:33 |  #4

You may have some luck shortly after dusk, or before dawn when the moon is furthest from the Milky Way. I don't think you'll really get anything when the moon is close to the milky way in the sky. The full moon is a good opportunity to try some other night shots. On a few occasions, I've taken pictures of mountains or other interesting landscapes lit by the moon with a starry sky in the background. Good luck.


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Jul 28, 2011 13:03 |  #5

Laserlight wrote in post #12837797 (external link)
iPad app (Star Walk) shows for Seatle area the Moon won't rise till after 10:30pm yet the sun won't set till around 11:30pm

This seemed off, so I checked via http://www.usno.navy.m​il …ta-services/rs-one-day-us (external link)

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Sun and Moon Data for One Day
The following information is provided for Seattle, King County, Washington (longitude W122.3, latitude N47.6):

Friday
12 August 2011 Pacific Daylight Time

SUN
Begin civil twilight 5:26 a.m.
Sunrise 6:01 a.m.
Sun transit 1:14 p.m.
Sunset 8:27 p.m.
End civil twilight 9:01 p.m.

MOON
Moonrise 7:12 p.m. on preceding day
Moon transit 12:01 a.m.
Moonset 4:57 a.m.
Moonrise 7:40 p.m.
Moonset 6:05 a.m. on following day

Phase of the Moon on 12 August: waxing gibbous with 99% of the Moon's visible disk illuminated.

Full Moon on 13 August 2011 at 11:58 a.m. Pacific Daylight Time.


Based on above - moon rise before sun set - I say the 99% full moon will wash out your dark skies, it is what it is.


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Jul 28, 2011 13:05 |  #6

Thanks for the replies guys.
mtbdudex, what did you google to find that website?


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Jul 28, 2011 13:12 |  #7

vinunleaded wrote in post #12838155 (external link)
Thanks for the replies guys.
mtbdudex, what did you google to find that website?

link is in my post above, I found it 2 years ago when first getting into astrophotos.
I use it to plan around.
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Jul 28, 2011 13:44 |  #8

mtbdudex wrote in post #12838145 (external link)
This seemed off, so I checked via http://www.usno.navy.m​il …ta-services/rs-one-day-us (external link)


Based on above - moon rise before sun set - I say the 99% full moon will wash out your dark skies, it is what it is.

Wow, so much for a $4.99 app.


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Jul 28, 2011 14:09 |  #9

The only thing I'll add is for truly dark skies you wait approx 45+ minutes on either side of civil twilight for the sun to be 18 degrees below the horizon (in my memory).

Its called astronomical(sp) twilight.

Then, the skies are not affected by sunlight.


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Jul 29, 2011 14:34 |  #10

Can anyone give me any guidance on how to capture the milky way?


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Jul 29, 2011 15:17 |  #11

use your widest lens, and widest aperture. Crank your ISO up pretty high. On the 5DII, you should be able to get away with at least 3200 without too much noise. Focus using a bright star, and Live View at max zoom. Based on your equipment listed, I'd say to use the 24-70 at F2.8. On the 5DII, you should be able to get around 25 seconds before the stars start to leave trails. Also, use a cable release or set the timer, so that you don't jiggle it on the tripod.


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Aug 01, 2011 19:40 as a reply to  @ paul3221's post |  #12

vinunleaded, Paul is right:
Use your widest lens and shoot in a dark moonless location with a tripod at the largest aperture. 8/12 will probably be close to the full moon so I don't know how well things will work out for you.

A 30 sec exposure with a 14mm lens will not leave a perceptible star trail. A 24mm lens will be pushing it but depends on how finicky you are.

Here is an example of a milky way shot with a 14mm lens with a cropped frame body.

http://www.flickr.com …/in/set-72157627136712042 (external link)

and another with a fixed tripod and a 5d mark II with the same 14mm lens for 1 min. Star trailing is visible.

http://www.flickr.com/​photos/ramv/5999801873​/ (external link)




  
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Aug 12, 2011 00:30 |  #13

ramv wrote in post #12860161 (external link)
vinunleaded, Paul is right:
Use your widest lens and shoot in a dark moonless location with a tripod at the largest aperture. 8/12 will probably be close to the full moon so I don't know how well things will work out for you.

A 30 sec exposure with a 14mm lens will not leave a perceptible star trail. A 24mm lens will be pushing it but depends on how finicky you are.

Here is an example of a milky way shot with a 14mm lens with a cropped frame body.

http://www.flickr.com …/in/set-72157627136712042 (external link)

and another with a fixed tripod and a 5d mark II with the same 14mm lens for 1 min. Star trailing is visible.

http://www.flickr.com/​photos/ramv/5999801873​/ (external link)

my god your work is amazing!


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Aug 12, 2011 04:23 |  #14

vinunleaded wrote in post #12844350 (external link)
Can anyone give me any guidance on how to capture the milky way?

+1 on other advice plus.... Dark site, dark site, dark site, dark site.........
Guess what? I don't have a dark site!!!!!! Without one, capturing stars is possible, but not nebulosity.




  
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Aug 12, 2011 13:29 |  #15

martyn_bannister wrote in post #12921430 (external link)
+1 on other advice plus.... Dark site, dark site, dark site, dark site.........
Guess what? I don't have a dark site!!!!!! Without one, capturing stars is possible, but not nebulosity.

Take your next vacation martyn at a dark site....

In past 9 years where I live light pollution is starting to creep up.

The only good thing about this recession is it halted Menards (DIY palce like Home Depot/Lowes) and some others from building 2.5 miles away North/East of me......


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