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Aug 03, 2011 20:28 |  #31

as I mentioned, I got a HP TC4400 tablet laptop off ebay for $130....I spent another $100 getting a 96GB SSD drive, and already had spare RAM lying around....so for $230 (technically), I got:

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I'm running Windows 7, LightRoom 3, Photoshop CS5, and a host of other programs, and it's running them pretty efficiently, and for about less than half the price of an iPad....and it can utilize Flash :lol: it's a shame this cheapy laptop is actually better spec'd than my desktop. :o


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Aug 03, 2011 20:39 |  #32

PWard wrote in post #12873494 (external link)
as I mentioned, I got a HP TC4400 tablet laptop off ebay for $130....I spent another $100 getting a 96GB SSD drive, and already had spare RAM lying around....so for $230 (technically), I got:

Intel dual-core 2.0 Ghz
4GB RAM
96GB SSD drive (these drives are awesome)
12" LCD screen that swivels and turns into a tablet with a pen stylus

I'm running Windows 7, LightRoom 3, Photoshop CS5, and a host of other programs, and it's running them pretty efficiently, and for about less than half the price of an iPad....and it can utilize Flash :lol: it's a shame this cheapy laptop is actually better spec'd than my desktop. :o

how does it do with a big cataglog open in lightroom and running PS at the same time? i was actually thinking about getting a cheapo $80 droid tablet from ebay and a cheap laptop from walmart but this looks like its just as good as the laptop i wanted and can be used as a bigger ebook reader.


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Aug 03, 2011 21:34 |  #33

My kid describes an iPad as an iTouch for the blind. When I needed to upgrade a laptop, I chose another one because they can do much more, and quicker, than an iPad.


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Aug 03, 2011 21:49 |  #34

Tablet is overpriced for those who expect it to do as much as a laptop. But using it for games, e-reader, web/e-mail and movies, tablets are worth it and with a 9ish battery life, it's not bad.
But for those who want hard drive size, more power and less battery life then a laptop is a good way to go.
Now in between that, a netbook is a good way to go. It can do more in a tablet but not as much as a laptop in terms of power.


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Aug 03, 2011 22:29 |  #35

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how does it do with a big cataglog open in lightroom and running PS at the same time? i was actually thinking about getting a cheapo $80 droid tablet from ebay and a cheap laptop from walmart but this looks like its just as good as the laptop i wanted and can be used as a bigger ebook reader.

I haven't run any huge catalogs yet because I'm trying to conserve space an my SSD drive. I guess I could always try it out with an external drive.

as far as an e-reader, yes the tablet laptop could be used as one, albeit a heavy one. I'm not a fan of LCD screens for an e-reader. I had a Nook color once but took it back and stayed with my original Nook e-reader.


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Aug 03, 2011 22:48 |  #36

I see lots of people buy them. I rarely see people use them, and when I do they're normally playing a game on them or on facebook.

The lack of a real keyboard makes it poor for being a contributor (and lets face it, everyone is a "contributor" these days), and the lack of physical interfaces (i.e. USB ports) along with a (purposely) limiting operating system means it's hard to interface with anything. The former can only be solved with either a laptop or an external keyboard with you (and then you may as well just use a laptop), the latter can be somewhat solved with an Android device to an extent or a device capable of running Windows/OSX/Linux (larger distros).

IMO the iPads and most tablets are fine for facebook or reading the news, or perhaps even hanging about on POTN all day, but that's about it.




  
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Aug 04, 2011 01:23 |  #37

As a pilot the iPad is a great tool. I use it for weather (very important in the pilot world), filing flight plans, tracking my flight times and duty times. I have a GPS attachment and use it to track my position, and keep essential flight data (how to get to the airport aka. approach plates). It's mostly a back up device for these uses but it's rapidly getting approval for primary use.

I have carried a company provided windows tablet on board for several years, no one on the crew (of four) will use the thing. The interface is horrible, it takes literally hours to learn how to use. The iPad is point and shoot with very minimal training. The Windoze pad includes an instructional class and then it's still very difficult to learn to use, it just sits in it's case without use. The crew is starting to buy their own iPads because they basically blow away anything else as far as user interface, and they are leaps and bounds ahead in availability of applications that make everyones job easier.

On top of the professional use, the iPad provides a great road entertainment center that will allow surfing, movie watching, gaming, emailing, face timing, etc etc. All of which is interspersed with professional pursuits as the need arises. Not a laptop replacement, but it takes up a sliver of space in my flight bag and weighs practically nothing. I can drag it out anytime in flight pair it with my GPS receiver and provide essential information to the crew.

As for photography it's use is definitely limited to basically being a display. It is an iPhone macro, but that's exactly what makes it great. My iPhone is a great device, but it's tedious doing much more than small tasks with it, the iPads size makes it very useful for the same tasks but is much easier to spend extended time with. It's not a computer, but it is what it is, and it's a great device for my usage.


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Aug 04, 2011 01:26 |  #38

I can have my iPad gallery open and be flipping through images with a client before you even press the power button on your laptop.

I don't try to edit on my iPad and I don't try to use my laptop as a portable gallery. Right Tool <--> Right Job.


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Aug 04, 2011 04:42 |  #39

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Right Tool <--> Right Job.

This!

Anybody who buys an iPad expecting it to be a replacement for their laptop either doesn't use their laptop for anything demanding, or is a moron (or both). And complaining that the iPad can't do everything a desktop can do is as stupid as complaining that you iPod can't do everything that your B&O HiFi can do.


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Aug 04, 2011 07:24 |  #40

hollis_f wrote in post #12875075 (external link)
This!

Anybody who buys an iPad expecting it to be a replacement for their laptop either doesn't use their laptop for anything demanding, or is a moron (or both).

For tablets like the iPad, maybe. For most of the Android ones too. But there are WIndows7 tablets getting around, and there are newer/better ones on the way. For example if you look mainstream the Dell Latitude ST is due out in October I believe - 2GB RAM, 128GB SSD, etc. AFAIK it will have a docking station available as well.

In reality the only thing that is truly different is a touchscreen versus a keyboard+touchpad. The slower system, different OS, and lack of ports is simply a marketing, cost, or profile decision.




  
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Aug 04, 2011 07:49 |  #41

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For tablets like the iPad, maybe. For most of the Android ones too.

Since I have an an Android Smartphone, which actively delivers my content to me, I honestly don't use my iMac for much more than image processing now. All the web "Browsing" that I do, I primarily do via RSS feeds. Tapatalk brings forum functionality in a much more native like manner to the phone.

For the occasional web surfing, and primarily client meetings, I am moving to a tablet. The zfolio app which ties into Zenfolio is fabulous, and that just so happens to be where I do client fulfillment from. I rarely used my MBP all that much anymore. For the few times I need a keyboard, the dock will suffice. The Asus eee transformer also has a GPS built in, unlike the iPad.

The keyboard dock for the transformer doubles the battery life, and is a very functional keyboard.

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Aug 04, 2011 10:50 |  #42

Whole lot of "brand-bashing" posts deleted. If you can't address the OP's question without bringing up "flaws" in someone else's choice of hardware brand, then maybe you should rethink whether you really have anything to offer to the thread. If you're itemizing a difference between laptops in general and tablets in general (as the original question asked), fine. But continuing to slam, or praise, one manufacturer at the expense of another of the same class of can get you in trouble.


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Aug 04, 2011 10:51 |  #43

At my work I get to dabble and play with all the hottest gadgets, including the latest 4G devices, phones or tablets. My feeling is that a stand alone tablet, with no keyboard is not very functional for business or day to day serious use. Its great for portability and can do quite a lot but isn't comfortable to hold in position for long periods of time. It has its place.

But devices like the Eepad Transfromer and ones in the future like it, ARE the future if you ask me. Convertible devices, devices that come with keyboards, docks and the like in the box are where its at. If a tablet is designed and engineered from its concept with keyboard or docking functionality then it becomes quite versatile and functional. Being able to use the portability of a tablet but dock it to a keyboard, large screen and use a mouse means it really can then replace the laptop.

As far as spending personal money for a tablet? I do not recommend it right now. I get some free, they barely get used. I know people who have bought iPads or other tablets and they almost force themselves to use it, if only to justify the cost it seems. The reason I say hold off is because tablets right now are really in their infant stages, 1.0 if you will. In the next 3-5 years these types of devices will be come more hybrid, better designed and have MUCH MUCH more robust operating systems designed for them.

Android Honeycomb is neat, its nice and it ... works. But thats about all I can say about it, its not that well fleshed out and Google is a baby in the OS design world. I like Android, but Android is a baby and Google has a lot of growing up to do. They dont know the first thing about integrating their services as well as say.. MIcrosoft. Personally I feel the best thing to do is wait for Windows 8 to release. I believe MS is going to fully cross integrate all types of devices, tablets, phones, desktop, laptops and game consoles with Windows 8.

I believe the next year will be about which tablet or phone has that new neat hardware.. which doesn't amount to much. So what if the new phone or tablet has another proc? Oh wow, hardware accelerated graphics?!! Boring, it still does what my old ass phone does today, just a tad bit faster. The future folks is NOT about hardware upgrades, its about software, services and integrating those services across multiple hardware platforms.

Windows 8 should be a good starting point for tablets. It should bring services and software to a level we are not seeing on mobile devices today. Windows Phone 7 is margionally ok today, but when Phone 8 comes out and fully integrates you with your Windows 8 devices, or your Xbox 360 running Metro UI you'll finally start to see some modern services being implemented across ALL devices you may own.

Today is a mix match of 20 companies fighting for your money. No unified services, just a giant cluster of software and hardware being thrown at the consumer and packaged in shining marketing campaigns to fool you into buying a new device every 18 months when your contract is up.

I say wait about a year or 2 for tablets to mature and for better software and services to better utilize the hardware they sit on.


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Aug 04, 2011 17:19 |  #44

Windows would be on tablets by now but Windows requires so much memory and hd space. Hopefully Win8 changes that. I'm waiting on a Windows Tablet so I have have a bit less gap between a laptop and tablet.


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Aug 04, 2011 18:25 |  #45

casaaviocar wrote in post #12874755 (external link)
As a pilot the iPad is a great tool. I use it for weather (very important in the pilot world), filing flight plans, tracking my flight times and duty times. I have a GPS attachment and use it to track my position, and keep essential flight data (how to get to the airport aka. approach plates). It's mostly a back up device for these uses but it's rapidly getting approval for primary use.

What GPS attachment are you using?




  
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