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Oct 23, 2005 16:24 |  #1

So, yesterday I was out a few minutes catching the early sun light.
Figured I pick up the 20D and my 200mm 2.8 L and shoot some airplanes coming in for landing in the fog. Got the light metered at 1/1000 @ F8 and in AV mode.
Airplane comes in for landing and I start shooting. And the results did not make happy at all.


down sized tampered with CS2

IMAGE NOT FOUND
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Center 100% crop CS2 version

IMAGE NOT FOUND
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Right 100% crop CS2 version

IMAGE NOT FOUND
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


And now over to the as shot images:

As shot down sized
IMAGE NOT FOUND
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


As shot center 100% crop
IMAGE NOT FOUND
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


As shot right 100% crop
IMAGE NOT FOUND
Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE



Now, the CS2 verison has some color issues, but I can live with that. It's almost what I was looking for, before I saw how horrible the pictures really was.
Are they suppose to be like this? I metered spot on, dead center on the exposing meter.
I have felt for a few months now, that my images does NOT look like any other images from the 20D I see around here, they all look very poor, in any situation. OOF, lack of colors, lack of everything that a dslr is suppose to make. And I thought that was my poor
18-55mm kit lense, I refused to think my L lense was bad.
But since I really have been hesitating to post any complaints on this forum I did not bother to hear what the experts had to say, until now. I'm sick of this, something is not right.
Or is this the quality one might expect with the 20D?

Anyways, here are some more links, raw, and full size images.

Full size CS2 (external link)
Full size as shot (external link)
RAW image, use save as (external link)


Hopefully someone can help me out a bit on this.:rolleyes:

Andreas.
Ps, the raw file saves to .tif file? and this post took me a loooong time writing. sheez.


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Oct 23, 2005 16:34 |  #2

Some EXIF info might come in handy I guess.



Equipment Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 20D
Camera Software: Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows
Image Orientation: Top, Left-Hand
Image Created: 2005:10:23 22:42:32
Exposure Time: 1/1000 sec
F-Number: f/8.0
Exposure Program: Aperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating: 100
Lens Aperture: f/8.0
Exposure Bias: 0 EV
Metering Mode: Average
Flash: No Flash
Focal Length: 200.00 mm
Shutter Speed:1/1000 sec


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Oct 23, 2005 16:42 |  #3

something is up with your file size. Raw is downloading at 6.5 mb. Raw on the 20D should be like 8 plus a tad. I am going to take a look at your files here.


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Oct 23, 2005 16:48 |  #4

Thanks Dante, I really appreciate that.:D
Most of my images are like this:

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Oct 23, 2005 16:51 |  #5

Honestly, with some pp work. The 20D needs some pp work when shooting raw. This pic is really rather nice. I find nothing worng with the 100% crop, considering the haze, the time of day etc. Mr. Westvik, I would suggest you change metering mode to evaluative for this kind of shot and increase fnumber.


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Oct 23, 2005 16:56 as a reply to  @ Dante King's post |  #6

Dante King wrote:
Honestly, with some pp work. The 20D needs some pp work when shooting raw. This pic is really rather nice. I find nothing worng with the 100% crop, considering the haze, the time of day etc. Mr. Westvik, I would suggest you change metering mode to evaluative for this kind of shot and increase fnumber.

HEY!, Stop sneaking in my exif-info!:D:D

Oh well. But I still get the feeling something IS wrong. Either the camera or my lenses. :rolleyes: I might post more examples later on, its too late here now.
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Oct 23, 2005 16:56 |  #7

What program are you using to do your raw conversion. I have found that this matters. For me, and I am going to duck here, I use Adobe products. PSCS2 and DNG converter. Looks like you have used DPP or something.


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Oct 23, 2005 16:56 |  #8

Grimnar wrote:
So, yesterday I was out a few minutes catching the early sun light.
Figured I pick up the 20D and my 200mm 2.8 L and shoot some airplanes coming in for landing in the fog. Got the light metered at 1/1000 @ F8 and in AV mode.
Airplane comes in for landing and I start shooting. And the results did not make happy at all.


down sized tampered with CS2

IMAGE NOT FOUND
| Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Center 100% crop CS2 version

IMAGE NOT FOUND
| Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Right 100% crop CS2 version

IMAGE NOT FOUND
| Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


And now over to the as shot images:

As shot down sized
IMAGE NOT FOUND
| Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


As shot center 100% crop
IMAGE NOT FOUND
| Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


As shot right 100% crop
IMAGE NOT FOUND
| Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE



Now, the CS2 verison has some color issues, but I can live with that. It's almost what I was looking for, before I saw how horrible the pictures really was.
Are they suppose to be like this? I metered spot on, dead center on the exposing meter.
I have felt for a few months now, that my images does NOT look like any other images from the 20D I see around here, they all look very poor, in any situation. OOF, lack of colors, lack of everything that a dslr is suppose to make. And I thought that was my poor
18-55mm kit lense, I refused to think my L lense was bad.
But since I really have been hesitating to post any complaints on this forum I did not bother to hear what the experts had to say, until now. I'm sick of this, something is not right.
Or is this the quality one might expect with the 20D?

Anyways, here are some more links, raw, and full size images.

Full size CS2 (external link)
Full size as shot (external link)
RAW image, use save as (external link)


Hopefully someone can help me out a bit on this.:rolleyes:

Andreas.
Ps, the raw file saves to .tif file? and this post took me a loooong time writing. sheez.

It looks like your subject was small and dark against a large white background and the photo is underexposed, dialing in a stop of + exposure compensation would be a good start.


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Oct 23, 2005 16:57 |  #9

How about some other shots, such as something like, 4-20 feet form subject?


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Oct 23, 2005 17:00 as a reply to  @ Grimnar's post |  #10

Grimnar wrote:
... its too late here now.
Thanks anyway:)

Whimp! :lol: :D :lol:


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Oct 24, 2005 01:58 |  #11

Grimnar wrote:
Some EXIF info might come in handy I guess.



Equipment Make: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS 20D
Camera Software: Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows
Image Orientation: Top, Left-Hand
Image Created: 2005:10:23 22:42:32
Exposure Time: 1/1000 sec
F-Number: f/8.0
Exposure Program: Aperture Priority
ISO Speed Rating: 100
Lens Aperture: f/8.0
[B]Exposure Bias: 0 EV [/B]
Metering Mode: Average
Flash: No Flash
Focal Length: 200.00 mm
Shutter Speed:1/1000 sec

The image contains a lot of very bright white clouds.

Your camera's light meter measures the light and sets up the camera so that the average brightness of the scene corresponds to the brightness of medium gray (18% gray). That's how the light meter of any auto-exposure camera (not only the 20D) works.

If you shoot something bright, such as the clouds in your image, you should tell the camera that - the camera doesn't "know" that you're photographing clouds and that the clouds are supposed to look (almost) white.

You should have used some + exposure compensation, for example +1.5, so that the camera would have made the average brightness of the scene 1.5 stops brighter than average gray.


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