It's Already 2AM: uhhhm Where we at again? Oh yeah 16th SPAMDITION (that's One Three)

jdizzle wrote in post #12974847
That's way out of my budget bcoz' some of that money is going to a 1Ds IV. Give me an Ultegra option and I'm good to go.

There just aren't many Ultegra Di2 options. It's a brand new drivetrain, it will take sometime before it's widely available. But, on the bikes it is, it looks like it comes at quite a premium over Ultegra.

The Ultegra Cervelo S5 for example is $4800, the Ultegra Di2 is $6000.

Fricks wrote in post #12974839
Hi martin

SUB1IM388 wrote in post #12974843
Hola!!!!

Hi Jake

Hi Danny

*sigh* wrote in post #12974856
There just aren't many Ultegra Di2 options. It's a brand new drivetrain, it will take sometime before it's widely available. But, on the bikes it is, it looks like it comes at quite a premium over Ultegra.

I should just get a bike without Di2. It's not going to make a difference for me.

jdizzle wrote in post #12974864
I should just get a bike without Di2. It's not going to make a difference for me.

You're going to get more bike for the money if you go without Di2. I don't think it's a bad option.

jdizzle wrote in post #12974667
Hi Danny.

LOL! I'm actually enoying the foot zooming bcoz' I don't feel like a lazy photog anymore.

I dunno if I would enjoy it... right now I have 2 ZOOM lenses and I can already see some strain on my 70-200mm's mount because of the frequency I change lens when I shoot:o

jdizzle wrote in post #12974844
Here's my rationale. Your D700 is great at lowlight and bumping up the ISO isn't going to hurt you. PLus, I'm not fanatical using a lens at f1.2-f1.8 anymore. You saw my image of my daughter using the Zeiss 100 @ f2.8. It's bcoz' I pushed the stroller where light was available and took the shot.

i'm with you, fast glass is not as necessary now with high ISO capabilities of today's cameras, even Steven's antique has no problems

FJ LOVE wrote in post #12974855
i do too but i can't help but think a new 24-70 is coming out soon and it will be killer so i'll wait a bit

Ya if it's comparaible to the 70-200 II then it would be worth it...

But when I have my 24-105 it's at 24 or 105 90% of the time. 24LII is a option.

FJ LOVE wrote in post #12974837
ya, i remember when she made you that for lunch, all curry no chicken

heheheh yeah I was really pissed that time you know... imagine eating Chicken curry with no Chicken on it?

jdizzle wrote in post #12974844
Here's my rationale. Your D700 is great at lowlight and bumping up the ISO isn't going to hurt you. PLus, I'm not fanatical using a lens at f1.2-f1.8 anymore. You saw my image of my daughter using the Zeiss 100 @ f2.8. It's bcoz' I pushed the stroller where light was available and took the shot.

its not about lowlight, I want the very thin dof effect though I actually saw a lot of samples of the Samyang 35mm f/1.4 wide open and it seems like its pretty sharp

FJ LOVE wrote in post #12974861
Hi Jake

Hi Danny

Your kid Shoot any girls today?

*sigh* wrote in post #12974870
You're going to get more bike for the money if you go without Di2. I don't think it's a bad option.

Yeah, let's see what Team Leopard has to say.

SUB1IM388 wrote in post #12974845
Martin i dont think i approve of your signature!

quite alright Danny, it's wasn't meant for you

monk3y wrote in post #12974871
I dunno if I would enjoy it... right now I have 2 ZOOM lenses and I can already see some strain on my 70-200mm's mount because of the frequency I change lens when I shoot:o

Don't get me wrong. Zooms have their place for quick results but, just using the 35,50, and 100 alone surprised me how much I have to think about composition.

FJ LOVE wrote in post #12974879
i'm with you, fast glass is not as necessary now with high ISO capabilities of today's cameras, even Steven's antique has no problems

I remember your example of using a lens wide open and only having one eye in focus. It's not pleasant to see imo.

monk3y wrote in post #12974886
its not about lowlight, I want the very thin dof effect though I actually saw a lot of samples of the Samyang 35mm f/1.4 wide open and it seems like its pretty sharp

Get the 35 1.4 then. For the price it's not bad.

Fricks wrote in post #12974884
Ya if it's comparaible to the 70-200 II then it would be worth it...

But when I have my 24-105 it's at 24 or 105 90% of the time. 24LII is a option.

the 24mm on a new zoom will be at least as good as the 24 L in my opinion and will cost the same too

monk3y wrote in post #12974871
I dunno if I would enjoy it... right now I have 2 ZOOM lenses and I can already see some strain on my 70-200mm's mount because of the frequency I change lens when I shoot:o

what does strain look like, c'mon Steven