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Aug 23, 2011 16:41 |  #46

Face it - he's in denial. Or has never used a good tripod head. Or both (most likely scenario).


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Aug 23, 2011 16:47 |  #47

Agree. That was a big ah-ha for me years and years ago. I pulled out that tripod - an old Velbon - that was a "decent" tripod in it's day (and just about identical to the same stuff offered today). When I did the testing on it the performance was horrible in comparison to the good stuff. So bad in comparison that it was even hard to measure - I'd characterize it as more than an order of magnitude worse in damping performance.


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Aug 23, 2011 16:54 |  #48

Same experience I had when I pulled out my old (1972) Spiratone Versatile to use with my spotting scope. Couldn't even breathe on it without getting shaking!


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Aug 23, 2011 17:00 |  #49

I have a cheapie sunpak that I actually had worse results in wind (10mph breeze) than when I hand held it and used IS. I was trying to take a night time shot over the water (full moon) - would have been a fantastic shot. The breeze set up a resonance in the legs and the head was sloppy (as described here) so that the actual images were worse than hand holding. That's what sent me down the path to get decent equipment and to actually empirically test some of this stuff. It ain't just three sticks and a clamp that make for a good rig. The engineering and tolerances in decent stuff is actually quite significant.

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Aug 23, 2011 17:11 |  #50

Jon wrote in post #12986724 (external link)
Face it - he's in denial. Or has never used a good tripod head. Or both (most likely scenario).

How about neither? There's nothing to be in denial about, the two issues with the head could hardly be called issues. If anything you two Johns are in denial that something cheap could actually be good.

Think about it this way, I have no reason to big up this head if it actually was crap, I'd just get rid of it and spend a couple hundred on a better one. I'm not some guy that's stuck with it and has buyers remorse.


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Aug 23, 2011 17:13 |  #51

No, you're just somebody who's never used a good tripod or head.


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Aug 23, 2011 17:22 |  #52

More assumptions. Is my Giottos not up to your standards either? It wasn't exactly cheap.


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Aug 23, 2011 18:22 |  #53

Please, let him have the last word.




  
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Aug 23, 2011 18:29 |  #54

Who? Or is that the sound of one hand clapping?

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