Non TTL / HS Sync flashes and PW Flex/Mini Hypersync??

Hey guys! As per title, I wonder if it's possible to use hypersync on the small "strobist" oriented flashes such as the Lumopro LP160 or Yong Nuo 560, instead of the traditional Canon / Nikon stuff like 580EX/430EX/SB900/800 etc?

Any help here would be hot!

Zexun

Hypersync is not limited to ETTL-compatible flashes; many people use it with studio strobes.

You don't even need flex on Rx side. Only mini or flex on Tx side to get HyperSync. But it not going to work on your 5d. On my 1dmk2 I can get one stop from 1/320 to almost 1/640 but on 5d from 1/200 to only 1/250. If I shoot outside with ambient then maybe 1/320 but expsoure gradient will be there.

So I can use hypersync of the cheap Yong Nuo 560 flashes and control them in manual mode with hypersync such that my 5D2's shutter can go up faster than 1/200?

Yup, put mini or flex on your 5dmk2. Use old plus II on the Rx side. You can even use cheaper cactus Tx on top of mini/flex which is on camera and then same cheap cactus rx. Remember HyperSync is all about adjusting sync timiming on Tx side.

Headshotzx wrote in post #12944263
Hey guys! As per title, I wonder if it's possible to use hypersync on the small "strobist" oriented flashes such as the Lumopro LP160 or Yong Nuo 560, instead of the traditional Canon / Nikon stuff like 580EX/430EX/SB900/800 etc?

Any help here would be hot!

Zexun

The best candidate flashes/strobes for using with HyperSync are those that have long flash duration. Most hotshoe flashes have flash durations that are very short so they will not work very well with HyperSync.

Also, cameras with shorter curtain travel time are better to use with HyperSync. The Canon 5DmkII is not one of those cameras.

Just wanted to mention that so you don't get your hopes up too high and then become disappointed with your results.

Canon and Nikon flashes have HSS (or equivalent) support so they don't really need the HyperSync feature.

I've seen photos and videos with people using D700 / D3 / 1Ds and 5D cameras and the mini/flex together and they all seem to go pretty well?

Are you saying that if I have 3 PW Plus II's right now, all I need to get my flashes to sync at 1/1000 is a MiniTT1 transmitter atop my camera?

Did I say anywhere about 1/1000? I said on your 5dmk2 you lucky if you can manage 1/320. This is with HyperSync only.

HSS is different and causes lot more light loss.

Oh, I understand. Hypersync only = small flash gets maybe 1/320.

Hypersync + HSS on Canon flash = whatever shutter speed. Yes?

There's some confusion here about Hypersync because it's used to mean two different things.

At it's simplest level, HS fine-tunes the timing to squeeze the flash into the shortest possible shutter-fully-open duration. This is limited by the camera, and that's where the 1/250, 1/320 numbers come from. Faster than that, the curtains are never both open so you can't have an instantaneous flash exposure of the whole frame no matter how you tweak the timing. This is with Speedlights, which have very short duration.

However, at faster speeds, operating much more like HSS, it relies on either a long flash or a long flash tail to expose the frame even though there is never that 'one moment.' This is typically the case with studio strobes. It really shouldn't be called the same thing as the first one.

The OP was asking about flashguns, so the first scenario is the most useful for him.

Headshotzx wrote in post #12945205
Oh, I understand. Hypersync only = small flash or studio strobe gets maybe 1/320 on FF. Only requires mini/Flex on Tx

Hypersync + HSS on Canon flash = whatever shutter speed. Yes? Requires mini/flex on Tx and Rx

Yup with caveats in bold.