Ill have to check out the 135L, im not a fan of my high ISO on the 1d mkII but on my 50d its pretty decent normally shoot f2.8 ISO 1600 and 1/160
BrandonAndersonPhotos Senior Member  907 posts Likes: 13 Joined Dec 2007 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska More info | Aug 20, 2011 14:55 | #16 Ill have to check out the 135L, im not a fan of my high ISO on the 1d mkII but on my 50d its pretty decent normally shoot f2.8 ISO 1600 and 1/160 Gear: 2-1D MkIII's | 5D Gripped | 50D Gripped | Rebel 6.3 | 70-200L F2.8 MkI | 17-40 L F4 | 300mm f2.8L | 28-135 3.5/5.6 IS | Nifty Fifty | Canon 15mm 2.8 Fisheye | (2)Norman 400b | 430 ExII | Some Studio Lighting | Go Pro Hero | Go Pro Hero 2
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tholland Member 42 posts Joined Jul 2011 Location: Elk Grove Ca. More info | Aug 21, 2011 00:35 | #17 Brandon Anderson Photos wrote in post #12968226  That would of been a good shot of the Baconator if not for the dust lol  as for when I shoot I prefer not to use a flash at all but I will do a bit of both through out the night, I think with the norman 200b and 400b's if your shooting at 200 watts a second or higher you can still get the wheel movement in the tires at about 1/200 sec or so, but with any of the hotshoe flashes the flash duration is so quick that it just locks everything up. I agree about the using flash at night at the track. This was only the third time I have ever tried flash and the first that was really dusty. After I took the shots I just laughed at myself for even thinking they would turn out! It really showed my lack of experience
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Aug 21, 2011 13:35 | #18 There are tons of guys that just keep shooting with flash even when its dusty, and these guys have been around the infields for years. Your camera is alot smarter than the "M" Zealots would have you believe
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Aug 21, 2011 13:41 | #19 Brandon Anderson Photos wrote in post #12968929 Ill have to check out the 135L, im not a fan of my high ISO on the 1d mkII but on my 50d its pretty decent normally shoot f2.8 ISO 1600 and 1/160 The shot of the black #7 car was taken with it at last years Canadian Sprint Car National. I made a 16x20 print of a few of those 135L shots and it just has a drool factor about it. And its an awesome lens for headshots, and portraits too! Your camera is alot smarter than the "M" Zealots would have you believe
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Aug 22, 2011 20:10 | #20 Bosscat wrote in post #12972899 There are tons of guys that just keep shooting with flash even when its dusty, and these guys have been around the infields for years. And sometimes they can still get acceptable results even with a flash when it is dusty. If you can't fix it with a hammer you've got an electrical problem.
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S.Horton worship my useful and insightful comments  More info | Aug 22, 2011 20:17 | #21 Nice panning shots! Sam - TF Says Ishmael
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Aug 22, 2011 21:47 | #22 Bicknell55 wrote in post #12981260 And sometimes they can still get acceptable results even with a flash when it is dusty. That sounds like a hit or miss propsition to me. Your camera is alot smarter than the "M" Zealots would have you believe
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leashypoo Member 54 posts Joined Aug 2010 Location: Los Angeles, Ca. More info | Aug 22, 2011 21:50 | #23
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Aug 23, 2011 21:58 | #24 No flash works for single car shots........side by side racing 3 wide in a NIGHT time feature.....not happening. TWIN EOS R6's ., some good glass and a whole lotta cool stuff!!
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I have thought about saving for a norman but the only way I would use it is if I could still get wheel blur. I am not sure it is worth it because personally I like the look of Bosscats photos taken with out the flash so maybe I will just save up for better lenses! 
aaaaaah myyyy eyyyyyyyes ....its toooo sharp.
