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Oct 25, 2005 20:33 |  #1

Hello guys

I had the opportunity to be at the Photo Expo over the weekend here in NYC. I’m sure many of our forum buddies may have attend also. Many boots, lots and lots of gear and accessories to make you head spin. Of course I had to chill out at the CANON Booth and listen to the “experts” give advice on just about everything.


This was the set up they had there at they shot their model “Hydie” Sorry for the crummy pictures. They seem to mix Continuous lighting with strobes.


Number 1 was what I think the main light… Looks tungsten to me which
Number 2 was a small light box but I wasn’t sure if it was continuous or a flash
Number 3 is that guy holding a reflector
Number 4 we have a spot light facing the back drop. That was a strobe
Number 5 is another strobe low to the floor.


Well that my interpretation of the lighting set up anyway.


I was wondering if anyone ever mixed these two lighting sources together like this

Thinking of just getting one of these to join my light set up http://www.bhphotovide​o.com/bnh/controller/h​ome?O=productlist&A=de​tails&Q=&sku=288349&is​=REG&addedTroughType=c​ategoryNavigation (external link)

I already own the 580EX and 430EX

What do you guys think??
I’m very new to all this…

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Oct 25, 2005 20:40 |  #2

BTW to you right is how the pictures looked when the shots were taken. The spot light made the white background grayish. Then they printed in on the large format printer to the left. The prints were Astonding..the Models were sexy..and Canon is just great...:D

They used the new 5D~

Oh and By the way... I was kinda testing a 24-70mm L... Needless to say its going back to the damn store!!!!!! New copy Needed!!!!:mad:

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Oct 25, 2005 20:59 as a reply to  @ Visuals's post |  #3

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Oct 25, 2005 21:08 |  #4

Wow. Got to see a show like this one day.
Nice printer if you can afford it/make it pay.


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Oct 25, 2005 21:19 |  #5

Are you sure there was continuous lighting being used? It looks to me like #1 is a strobe with a beauty dish. The modeling lamp is probably a regular incandescent bulb, which is why it recorded as orange-ish in your photo. #2 looks to be a softboxed strobe lighting her lower body. Both 4 and 5 are background lights that overlap behind her to give the halo effect, with 4 probably spilling onto her hair some. The job of the guy with the reflector is to fill the shadows under her arm. This is my take on it, anyway.


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Oct 25, 2005 21:21 |  #6

I'm a relative n00b to lighting...So take it with a grain of salt. I'd guess they were modeling lights. I can't imagine they would mix lighting like that.

I can't really comment on the kit you linked to, since I don't know enough about it.


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Oct 26, 2005 04:43 |  #7

The people with the Noink bags looks jealous :D



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Oct 26, 2005 05:12 |  #8

...jealous because Noinks parent multi-national doesn't make printers and audio-visual systems etc etc

The wonder of it all is that the Canon Inc products cover everything except studio lighting. Why don't they get into lighting I wonder? They got a big cheque book afterall.


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Oct 26, 2005 08:14 as a reply to  @ mgbeach's post |  #9

mgbeach wrote:
Are you sure there was continuous lighting being used? It looks to me like #1 is a strobe with a beauty dish. The modeling lamp is probably a regular incandescent bulb, which is why it recorded as orange-ish in your photo. #2 looks to be a softboxed strobe lighting her lower body. Both 4 and 5 are background lights that overlap behind her to give the halo effect, with 4 probably spilling onto her hair some. The job of the guy with the reflector is to fill the shadows under her arm. This is my take on it, anyway.

OOOOHhhhhhhhh! I see:)
A strobe with Beauty dish.. I thought it may have been some sort of continuous light source because She was constantly lit from the top. I couldn't go behind the model to make sure. So Im guessing that both light sources aren't usually mixed then... thats cool.

Someone once told me about modeling lamps.. what purpose do they serve other than creating available light.

Thanks MgBeach~


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Oct 26, 2005 08:25 |  #10

Modeling lamps serve 3 purposes:

1. They give you more available light to facilitate critical focusing.

2. To some extent, they allow you to see where the shadows and highlights will fall when the strobes fire.

3. They indicate when the strobe has recycled and you can take another shot.


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Oct 26, 2005 08:38 |  #11

I was there on Friday. The Canon area was the most congested area of the entire Expo. The Nikon area was nowhere as busy. The big buzz was mainly over the 5D.

I also attended 1 seminar "Maximizing Stock Profits" that was worth every peny. It was an excellent knowledge resource.

Overall, the Expo was well worth checking out for any photographer at any level of experience.


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Oct 26, 2005 08:40 |  #12

I was wondering if anyone ever mixed these two lighting sources together like this

Besides what's already been said, there's no reason why you can't mix lighting. It's sort of like putting a filter on one source to get different colored light. Or, you could filter the different source to get the same colored light.
They aren't doing that here 'cause the strobe overpowers the modeling lights & their effect is minimal.

Thinking of just getting one of these to join my light set up

Looks like it would work well for head & shoulders shots. For full body I'd shoot it hot (without the softbox) through a large sheet of diffusion material.


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Oct 26, 2005 09:06 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #13

Frank, I've been thinking of building a diffusion panel. Any suggestions on material for it from the local Home Depot/Lowes/JoAnne Fabrics?


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Oct 26, 2005 10:20 |  #14

Frank, I've been thinking of building a diffusion panel. Any suggestions on material for it from the local Home Depot/Lowes/JoAnne Fabrics?

You could use translucent drop cloths for painting, or even clear garbage bags. Other more conventional sources:
Translum Diffusion - 54" x 18' Roll $40US (external link)
Sample 1.75 x 2.75" swatchbook of Roscolux Series gels. (external link) I think they have something in here, too.


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Oct 27, 2005 07:48 as a reply to  @ PhotosGuy's post |  #15

Those strobes look awfully similar to my Elinchrom gear... do you know what they were using?

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