Green Box Mode.

pwm2 wrote in post #13004359
The end results might be:
- some people notices that it is quite meaningful to learn to use the camera manually, since that adds new options to try to get a specific end results.

- some people may notice that it is silly to ridicule people they have happened to see with camera in GB mode, or who have had the indecency to post an photo with the GB stamp of hell in the meta-data.

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I don't disagree at all with your summary...after all, box cameras existed for many decades and made great photos for folks, long before they ever started to use any camera with any adjustments!

But the OP was looking for differences which they could see...and the results very often are 'few differences which you can see'

Holy ****. 5 pages and only 3 people actually posted examples instead of arguing about things that don't matter at all, including how to convert VHS to DVD at costco. Seriously guys?


POST SOME SAMPLES!

Maybe nobody want to commit the unpardonable POTN sin of using the green box!

Actually there's a big difference but you have to use similar images. I'll take a crack at it when I'm not in a hurricane. Subscribed!

OK, wow, this thread has been going for five days! And, I haven't been out and about shooting, so I'm stuck with the same boring subject matter than I was 5 days ago!

But, seeing the activity I figured "Well, what the heck!"

So, I grabbed my trusty old 30D that had a good lens on it for my purpose, the 16-35 f/2.8. In Manual Exposure mode I exposed this shot for the sky, my "sunny day" approach and set my aperture to f/2.8 to get a soft background. I wanted to get "good sky", knowing that my Raw converter would massage the exposure variations. So, the first two images are the Before and After Lightroom of the one shot:

Canon EOS 30D, Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM II
1/2500s f/2.8 at 21.0mm ISO 200

It's difficult to advance this thread because it's easier to show the impact of a single exposure factor than to guess how multiple factors will work through a camera's automated reasoning.

For example, an image at f/6.3...

Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE

Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE

Okay, I have a great example, finally...

First up, green box mode. It was kind of dim outside, so the flash popped up. It scared me at first because I have never used the on board flash, so I didn't know what that noise was...

I use the green box when my light is changing rapidly and the event is moving just as fast. I give my 5DmkII a lot of credit for its built in brains because sometimes, it does a better job of metering funky lighting issues than me. Mostly I shoot Manual but I am not ashamed to shoot green box too. I figure I paid a lot of money for a smart camera and I want to get my money's worth

Here's one more, once again these are both SOOC, so don't judge them too much, LOL

Green box

Heh! Most of the posts in this thread still lack the photos that the OP has asked for, that is one that you have set up in a non-auto mode using whatever settings you desire for whatever goal, and then a shot of the same thing in Full Auto, and post them both.

Th dog shots above did meet that request (although the OP did as that we take the Manual shot first). And, the dog shots do show the same "problem" with the pop-up flash. If you were to disable the pop-up flash you may see even more of a difference, and likely not for the better...

Anyway, I'm glad I actually got to run my little test and make a contribution. And, as I suspected, the camera did not handle Depth Of Field concerns nearly as well as I had wanted. The overblown sky was a bit of a surprise, though -- jpegs often handle skies "OK", as I recall. But I wasn't using a camera with anything like Auto Lighting Optimizer, which may or may not work in Auto mode.

As I mentioned a few days ago, the Auto mode has Picture Styles turned off. I assume that this means that it is using either the Standard Picture Style values, or maybe some "smart" function depending on how it meters a scene or something, I don't know, but whatever it did with my Auto shot definitely missed the mark as far as the sky goes...

Lisa, that pair with the girl is an interesting set! I'm paticularly interested that Auto evidently used a significantly wider aperture on (I presume) your 50mm f/1.8. But I can't get any Exif -- what aperture did it use?

Here's the exif links (both were at f/4!)
Auto:
http://www.flickr.com …23542/meta/in/p​hotostream

Manual:
http://www.flickr.com …23136/meta/in/p​hotostream

Just took a pair on my desk. First manual, ISO100, f/4, .4sec shutter. Green box was ISO3200 f/4, 1/100 shutter.

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LemonScent wrote in post #13011472
Here's the exif links (both were at f/4!)
Auto:
http://www.flickr.com …23542/meta/in/p​hotostream

Manual:
http://www.flickr.com …23136/meta/in/p​hotostream

I think your Flickr link shows the same Photo? Please check your Exif for the two photos in your software and post it!?

Keep them coming folks.