It's Already 2AM: 17th SPAMdition... Time to learn the Science of BUYology!!

Why buy Audi a high end VW like Lexus and Toyota again.

*sigh* wrote in post #13011464
What kind of moron buys a car like that for it's fuel efficiency?

I was doing some reading on those cars but, I'm prefectly happy with my VW beetle. :p

tonyniev wrote in post #13011466
Why buy Audi a high end VW like Lexus and Toyota again.

What do you suggest?

tonyniev wrote in post #13011466
Why buy Audi a high end VW like Lexus and Toyota again.

Because they are still very nice cars?

It's more of the other way around anyway, the Audi's are developed and the technology trickles down later on into the VW's.

jdizzle wrote in post #13011473
What do you suggest?

A VW branded comparable car. I will bet a Passat. I seriously looked at the high end VW Phaeton, but they stopped selling it here in the USA.

tonyniev wrote in post #13011535
A VW branded comparable car.

There is no comparable VW car to the S4/S5.

Or buy a SEAT (Pronounced "Se-at"). Has the A4 and A6 engines, same body, but not the shell, and is cheaper than a VW

I bought my youngest son a Passat when we were in NY, he supped up the software, my daughter before I bought her a Sirocco...I may get another VW for my self when I cannot drive fast anymore.

Harm wrote in post #13011545
Or buy a SEAT (Pronounced "Se-at"). Has the A4 and A6 engines, same body, but not the shell, and is cheaper than a VW

SEAT's aren't really available in the US, I doubt they would be much cheaper if they were as VW's are already a heck of a lot cheaper here than just about anywhere else in the world.

That and the A4/A6 engines aren't even close to the S4/S5 engines.

tonyniev wrote in post #13011550
I bought my youngest son a Passat when we were in NY, he supped up the software, my daughter before I bought her a Sirocco...I may get another VW for my self when I cannot drive fast anymore.

They're great cars, I drive a VW Rabbit, but even a souped up passat is not Audi S series.

*sigh* wrote in post #13011554
SEAT's aren't really available in the US, I doubt they would be much cheaper if they were as VW's are already a heck of a lot cheaper here than just about anywhere else in the world.

That and the A4/A6 engines aren't even close to the S4/S5 engines.

A4/A6
S4/S6
R4/R6

depends on the model...they all share the same engines.

*sigh* wrote in post #13011543
There is no comparable VW car to the S4/S5.

Really? Engine, transmission, undercarriage, brakes?....not appointments.

As they say everywhere other than the US...

Vorsprung Dürch Technik

for Audis

Harm wrote in post #13011569
A4/A6
S4/S6
R4/R6

depends on the model...they all share the same engines.

The 4 and 6 series may, but the S and A series do not.

tonyniev wrote in post #13011572
Really? Engine, transmission, undercarriage, brakes?....not appointments.

The S4 is running a Supercharged V6, VW doens't offer a supercharged V6 period. By the time you took a Passat and put he money into it that you would need to in order to achieve S4 performance you haven't saved yourself all that much. The Audi also has some nicer options. You are also dealing with a heavily modified VW versus a stock Audi. Typically the brakes are upgraded on the S series as well, a higher performance transmission, undercarriage, couldn't tell you but you are going to have some other performance upgrades as well.

Now... if you wanted to talk like A4, a GLI can come pretty close to a base A4 with it's 2.0T, but it's still not quite the same. Now... if you are strictly talking about speed you could get say a GTI to be faster than a S4/S5 but it's not going to be nearly as nice all around.

Normally the engines you see in this generations VW's are those from the last gen Audi's.

^^^agree, on both...I did a cursory compare and good VW are pricey too and can cost as much as an Audi with the better trims and specs.