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Aug 24, 2011 02:03 |  #1

I took this shot and a bunch of others at a friends wedding. I'm not a pro and he had a paid photog there I just want to send him some of the pics I got. Anyway...

What's the best way to remove the power lines from this shot? I tried in LR3 but it leaves that nasty bunch of circles and smudges instead. I have PSE but am not great at masking and painting and such...

Can anybody give me a quick idea as to how to tackle this job. Not asking for a freebie here just a nudge in the right direction would be appreciated.

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Aug 24, 2011 02:24 |  #2

Cloning, which is a common tool in Lightroom and all the "imitators". Just be aware that there is work involved. Cloning is a sometimes painstaking effort of taking a sample from an image and copying it into an offending place.

Here you have plenty of blue sky, but you should be aware that one spot of blue sky is typically not "happy" with blending with another spot of blue sky (maybe too dark or too light or whatever).

If you take this as a "learning project" then you could work on it and learn a lot, if you do some studying up on the subtleties involved with cloning.

But, if you are trying to get something out quickly to these folks then, well, umm, maybe too much for you to tackle. In that case you have to choose between as-is and paying someone who has a lot of experience/knowhow and who can demonstrate their abilities.


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Aug 24, 2011 07:37 as a reply to  @ tonylong's post |  #3

Gotta agree with Tony, you've got 10-12 wires to get rid of in various backgrounds, this could turn in to a real PITA.


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Aug 24, 2011 07:52 |  #4

Crop in on the couple in the middle and lose the rest...


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Aug 24, 2011 07:56 |  #5

I'd clone them out in PSE, rather then LR. LR spot removal is no substitute for "real" cloning IMO. (Yes, it could be done in LR, but it would be a royal PITA)

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Aug 24, 2011 08:03 as a reply to  @ René Damkot's post |  #6

Honestly,
I would crop the image and create a portrait. Your workload on power lines would be slashed, and the bridal party aren't adding value to the image. Still use the image though, for clone practising with PS as others have mentioned.




  
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Aug 24, 2011 08:08 as a reply to  @ chauncey's post |  #7

The cloning/healing tool in LR is not really designed for this level of cloning. They are more for small spots, that's why you ended up with a mess. I use CS5 so I'm not familiar with PSE and I don't know what options you have in your version. I think Content Aware Fill is available in PSE9 so look into using it. What you're wanting to do is gonna take some time. I'd set the Clone tool blending mode to Lighten and clone away at each wire in the sky. You may need to change the blend mode to Darken over the mountain area or even Normal. Set the brush size to just a little bigger than what you're cloning. Sample from above and below the wires to help blend in.

You may also be able to select portions of the clean sky, copy to it's own layer, and move it over the wires, and blend in.

It's gonna take some time and effort to get right, especially if you're going to print at any size. If there are several shots like this it may not be worth the time/effort, but save it for a rainy day learning project.


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Aug 24, 2011 09:27 as a reply to  @ D Thompson's post |  #8

Turning on image editing permission may get you some help from those of us in the peanut gallery.


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Aug 24, 2011 09:30 |  #9

sticknpuck wrote in post #12989305 (external link)
I tried in LR3 but it leaves that nasty bunch of circles and smudges instead.

Sometimes you need to do small parts, reselect the source area, & just sneak up on it.
Sometimes the patch tool works best if you isolate the area with the clone tool first, & then patch that section.
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Aug 24, 2011 09:35 |  #10

Nothing beats the Spot Healing power of Photoshop CS5.

So, it looks like they had this ceremony on the side of a highway near a tree nursery or something. What a horrible location for a wedding.


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Aug 24, 2011 09:44 |  #11

I have to agree with others here that are saying lose the background. Cloning all that would be time consuming painstaking work in PSE.
Otherwise this picture is a great candidate for CS5 and its content aware capabilities.
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Aug 24, 2011 09:56 |  #12

CameraMan wrote in post #12990542 (external link)
Nothing beats the Spot Healing power of Photoshop CS5.

So, it looks like they had this ceremony on the side of a highway near a tree nursery or something. What a horrible location for a wedding.

That's a winery. Common location for weddings for those who don't want to have it at a church or reception hall.


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Aug 24, 2011 10:21 |  #13

Thank you all for the tips and suggestions..

mtimber wrote in post #12989993 (external link)
Crop in on the couple in the middle and lose the rest...

Unfortunately (or fortunately I guess), this is the only shot that I wanted to get with the power lines in there. The others are all portraits and void (mostly) of power lines. I can fix this one pretty easily I think... I know - cutting off the dress was a bad move..:oops:


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Thanks for the vid tutorial René will check it out. Is this better or did I overcook it? I just did a quick job of it so I will clean it up and make it look more natural before sending it to them...


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So, it looks like they had this ceremony on the side of a highway near a tree nursery or something. What a horrible location for a wedding.

No actually, it was a beautiful location for a wedding. But not the best location for wedding photos - and the photos weren't top priority for their ceremony so I don't think it bothered them. Mistaken Identity Winery on Saltspring Island, B.C. Far from any highways - great weather and a fun location to spend a weekend with some old friends. :)


Anyway, when I get some time to practice on it I'll post what I come up with.

BTW, these uploads look horrible to me. Is it better to post them hosted from Flickr? I'll check into it...

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Aug 24, 2011 10:46 |  #14

Still (way) to dark: As in: Bride is at least a stop underexposed.

Your original, with a Q&D curves adjustment layer with a (sloppy) airbrushed mask:
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Gives this: (excuse the jpg compression): Still no detail to speak of in the dresses and suits though. You might do better with the original (certainly if it's a Raw)

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Aug 24, 2011 10:57 |  #15

Crop and make it a vertical to the top of the tree and just inside the first guy and first girl.
Set Clone tool on lighten with a soft brush at 100 percent and size to be about the same as the wire. That should work to quickly get rid of any remnants that are still there. If it needs some mop up set then clone tool on normal at 20 percent with a soft brush and even out what is left.


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